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Unread 04-23-2012, 09:46 PM   #3031
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This thread makes me paranoid. I have almost 45k on my 06 and haven't had a problem. Is this something that happens to every 05-06 or is it just certain ones? Should I be worried about it even if the laughing monkey hasn't happened? And if so should I take steps to prevent it? Seems like a lot of time, work, and money.
I think I may try the 5w-40 diesel motor oil on my next oil change after doing some reading on here. Anyone else seen good results from this?

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Unread 04-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #3032
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This thread makes me paranoid. I have almost 45k on my 06 and haven't had a problem. Is this something that happens to every 05-06 or is it just certain ones? Should I be worried about it even if the laughing monkey hasn't happened? And if so should I take steps to prevent it? Seems like a lot of time, work, and money.
I think I may try the 5w-40 diesel motor oil on my next oil change after doing some reading on here. Anyone else seen good results from this?
It happens to many, not most, not all, but many. No need to worry, if you do an inspection of the gears and shaft as described in the first dozen posts here. Laughing monkey doesn't set in slowly; for me, it was just there one morning. Choose one of the mods described, too. Choose a good oil as discussed, as well, not a diesel oil. IMO. Not too much time to handle.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 07:38 AM   #3033
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Originally Posted by chevy2169
This thread makes me paranoid. I have almost 45k on my 06 and haven't had a problem. Is this something that happens to every 05-06 or is it just certain ones? Should I be worried about it even if the laughing monkey hasn't happened? And if so should I take steps to prevent it? Seems like a lot of time, work, and money.
I think I may try the 5w-40 diesel motor oil on my next oil change after doing some reading on here. Anyone else seen good results from this?

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It happens to many, not most, not all, but many. No need to worry, if you do an inspection of the gears and shaft as described in the first dozen posts here. Laughing monkey doesn't set in slowly; for me, it was just there one morning. Choose one of the mods described, too. Choose a good oil as discussed, as well, not a diesel oil. IMO. Not too much time to handle.
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Flying_bosen is correct.
You will never know if you have an opda issue until you pull the thing and look.
I saw one rig with trashed OPDA at 8500 miles and mine at 18k was perfect. If you read the first page you should note that the opda will be bad with no laughing monkey. There is very little or in my case no expense for the Fog mod. I just found the stuff required in my collection of auto repair items. The local Ace hardware store has the necessary tools. Please re read the oil recommendations. 10w30 Valvoline VR1 is my recommendation for you. If not in stock at your local store have them order it. Or get it cheaper off the Internet. If you do your own research on oils you can find the zink content of various oils. Choose one with the correct viscosity and around 1400ppm of zink.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 08:01 AM   #3034
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This thread makes me paranoid. I have almost 45k on my 06 and haven't had a problem. Is this something that happens to every 05-06 or is it just certain ones? Should I be worried about it even if the laughing monkey hasn't happened? And if so should I take steps to prevent it? Seems like a lot of time, work, and money.
I think I may try the 5w-40 diesel motor oil on my next oil change after doing some reading on here. Anyone else seen good results from this?
chevy, pick a nice day, review the TDC video or the sharpie video on the first page. Check it first. Some have no problems and some do. I won't get into most/all/many since we don't know, but let's just say there are enough incidents to warrant a 3000 post thread where you rarely hear anything from other model years.

Chances are you will have wear. If so it looks like modifying the existing OPDA or starting over with a new OPDA and modifying are your options.

The oil cup or oil bath design are relatively easy to complete and will offer substantial improvement over the grease design.

Also to clarify, Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Truck Diesel is a mixed fleet oil suitable for gasoline and diesel vehicles. It is not a traditional diesel oil. I've been using it for over a year with no problems. That or VR1 are the most popular oil, however there are some Shell Rotella brands that are suitable too.

The first page will have current info, videos, pics, and a summary of a lot of the stuff we've discussed over all these pages.

It's good to be concerned about it. I was completely freaked when I found out (granted I had laughing monkey), but over times I've realized it's very manageable it you take easy proactive steps.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #3035
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I keep seeing this over and over and like chevy2169 I'm paranoid. I'm right in the date range 2005 TJ (12/2004 build date.)

My TJ has 82000 miles on it, and I'm almost scared to pull the OPDA and look. It's running fine. I don't want to screw up a good thing, but I feel like I'm driving a time bomb.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 09:21 AM   #3036
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I keep seeing this over and over and like chevy2169 I'm paranoid. I'm right in the date range 2005 TJ (12/2004 build date.)

My TJ has 82000 miles on it, and I'm almost scared to pull the OPDA and look. It's running fine. I don't want to screw up a good thing, but I feel like I'm driving a time bomb.
It will take 20 minutes to check and then you'll know. All the info is on the first page.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 09:30 AM   #3037
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I keep seeing this over and over and like chevy2169 I'm paranoid. I'm right in the date range 2005 TJ (12/2004 build date.)

My TJ has 82000 miles on it, and I'm almost scared to pull the OPDA and look. It's running fine. I don't want to screw up a good thing, but I feel like I'm driving a time bomb.
That's like saying youre worried you may have cancer and not getting tested because you feel fine. Just pull it and see. Then you can fix it or rest easy. Either way, its all for the best.
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I got home late last night and was just playing with it a bit .... took it out and it was noticeably stiffer ... my hand actually got tired from the effort[/QUOTE]
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Unread 04-24-2012, 10:13 AM   #3038
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That's like saying youre worried you may have cancer and not getting tested because you feel fine. Just pull it and see. Then you can fix it or rest easy. Either way, its all for the best.
I've said in the past that it's like your jeep has herpes and needs treatment to prevent an control outbreaks, but cancer is far better. It runs in the family, you have genetic predisposition for it, the cause of onset is a mystery, it's completely treatable if diagnosed in time, and will spread and destroy your insides if you ignore it or refuse to to admit it can happen to you, too.

My jeep had to have a cam transplant because I ignored the symptoms and thought it was just a cold; now after a very expensive surgery, she's in complete remission and gets regular checkups and preventative treatments to be certain it stays in remission.

Be a loving partner and play doctor with your gal once in a while.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 10:46 AM   #3039
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It will take 20 minutes to check and then you'll know. All the info is on the first page.
I'm going to pull it right now and take a look. If there is no scoring or damage to the shaft should I still consider doing a mod?
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Unread 04-24-2012, 10:51 AM   #3040
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I'm going to pull it right now and take a look. If there is no scoring or damage to the shaft should I still consider doing a mod?
Yes.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 10:57 AM   #3041
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I'm going to pull it right now and take a look. If there is no scoring or damage to the shaft should I still consider doing a mod?
Again, why would you not mod it? There is no way lubrication can get to the upper bushing. Drill it, put a little tiny oil cup on there, and squirt a couple of drops of oil in every oil change. I'm sure Willydigger could help. He did mine. Ask him if you could ship him a new one for him to mod for you. Grease fitting or oil cup - how could this not be a good idea? Its great (and cheap) insurance.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 11:47 AM   #3042
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Jeep won't start. Everything went back together correctly. Marks were lined up adn everything. Turns over, just won't start.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 02:40 PM   #3043
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Jeep won't start. Everything went back together correctly. Marks were lined up adn everything. Turns over, just won't start.
Did you plug the wires to the sensor back in? Ask me how I know this can happen!
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Again, why would you not mod it? There is no way lubrication can get to the upper bushing. Drill it, put a little tiny oil cup on there, and squirt a couple of drops of oil in every oil change. I'm sure Willydigger could help. He did mine. Ask him if you could ship him a new one for him to mod for you. Grease fitting or oil cup - how could this not be a good idea? Its great (and cheap) insurance.
Yep! I sent Willydigger a new OPDA, and he had the mod complete and ready to ship the same day he received it.
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Did you plug the wires to the sensor back in? Ask me how I know this can happen!
Yes. It wants to start just wont stay on.
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