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Unread 12-12-2011, 05:34 PM   #2446
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You guys have done a great job documenting the problem and making the repairs. Saw the video of replacing it, seems pretty easy. Beats paying an extra $300.00 to have someone else do it. Hope it's in stock, I paced an order for it.

I recently did the brakes and replaced the water pump, thermostat, hoses and belt with the help from this forum, good stuff.

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You replaced the water pump on a jeep with 39k miles?

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Unread 12-12-2011, 07:37 PM   #2447
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Unread 12-12-2011, 07:37 PM   #2448
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Had the dealer flush the radiator earlier, which was probably to cause for the pump to start leaking. Not a very good flush, at least not as good a flush as I did when I replaced the pump.

I'm sticking to doing the maintenance myself from now on, just don't get the quality of work done by others.

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Unread 12-13-2011, 12:03 AM   #2449
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Bomb still ticking

I've followed this thread for quite some time now, even contacted willydigger about the fogmod. Here's my story, right now I am just shy of 60k on the clock, no signs of monkeys yet but not sure if I should pull the opda or not. My problem is I still have until May of '12 left on my 7/70 power train warranty so do I pull it and not worry about Chrysler trying to blame me for it being fubar'd because I pulled it? Has anyone had a dealer pull it, re-install and set it back in with the DBR? Just wondering how much time they charged to do it, can't believe it would be much over 1/2hr which should be less than my $100 deductible. Well that's where I stand, I'm not afraid to pull it as far as my mechanical abilities are concerned, just don't want to give Chrysler a reason to void my froggin warranty on it. Thanks for any advise, really hate to let it go too long and possibly smoke my cam gear.

P.S. I did switch over to VR-1 10w30, I really like it so far and almost think the oil consumption is less, not that it was real bad before (1/2qt between oil changes (3000mi).
P.S.S. I am really liking the looks of the oil cup mod.
P.S.S.S. Just wanted everyone to know how much I appreciate all the hard work you members have done on this problem, you guys are awesome and thank you very much for all of your effort!!!!!! Too bad Chrysler didn't put this much time and knowledge into this before they put it on the streets.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 06:22 AM   #2450
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I've followed this thread for quite some time now, even contacted willydigger about the fogmod. Here's my story, right now I am just shy of 60k on the clock, no signs of monkeys yet but not sure if I should pull the opda or not. My problem is I still have until May of '12 left on my 7/70 power train warranty so do I pull it and not worry about Chrysler trying to blame me for it being fubar'd because I pulled it? Has anyone had a dealer pull it, re-install and set it back in with the DBR? Just wondering how much time they charged to do it, can't believe it would be much over 1/2hr which should be less than my $100 deductible. Well that's where I stand, I'm not afraid to pull it as far as my mechanical abilities are concerned, just don't want to give Chrysler a reason to void my froggin warranty on it. Thanks for any advise, really hate to let it go too long and possibly smoke my cam gear.

P.S. I did switch over to VR-1 10w30, I really like it so far and almost think the oil consumption is less, not that it was real bad before (1/2qt between oil changes (3000mi).
P.S.S. I am really liking the looks of the oil cup mod.
P.S.S.S. Just wanted everyone to know how much I appreciate all the hard work you members have done on this problem, you guys are awesome and thank you very much for all of your effort!!!!!! Too bad Chrysler didn't put this much time and knowledge into this before they put it on the streets.
I would pull it or at least have it pulled mine is an 05 with 60,000,it made no noises whatsoever but when I pulled it I found alot of wear on the drive gear.If you decide to have it pulled by the dealer make sure you ask to see it,don't let them make the call on replacement.They seem to think a worn gear is normal no matter how worn it is.Just my 2 cents,I also am in love with the oil lube idea,and think I'll be ordering another opda and do this mod.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 06:31 AM   #2451
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I've followed this thread for quite some time now, even contacted willydigger about the fogmod. Here's my story, right now I am just shy of 60k on the clock, no signs of monkeys yet but not sure if I should pull the opda or not. My problem is I still have until May of '12 left on my 7/70 power train warranty so do I pull it and not worry about Chrysler trying to blame me for it being fubar'd because I pulled it? Has anyone had a dealer pull it, re-install and set it back in with the DBR? Just wondering how much time they charged to do it, can't believe it would be much over 1/2hr which should be less than my $100 deductible. Well that's where I stand, I'm not afraid to pull it as far as my mechanical abilities are concerned, just don't want to give Chrysler a reason to void my froggin warranty on it. Thanks for any advise, really hate to let it go too long and possibly smoke my cam gear.

P.S. I did switch over to VR-1 10w30, I really like it so far and almost think the oil consumption is less, not that it was real bad before (1/2qt between oil changes (3000mi).
P.S.S. I am really liking the looks of the oil cup mod.
P.S.S.S. Just wanted everyone to know how much I appreciate all the hard work you members have done on this problem, you guys are awesome and thank you very much for all of your effort!!!!!! Too bad Chrysler didn't put this much time and knowledge into this before they put it on the streets.
Unless you have evidence of something wrong the dealer won't do anything. If you pull it and see wear, the dealer will say it's normal. You would need a failure, a large degree of slop that the scan tool would pick up, or laughing monkey.

I told the dealer I pulled mine and had no issue, however I did have laughing monkey and the OPDA showed signs of failure. I was still under warranty and had to pay a $100 deductible. There are a select few that get substantial help from the dealer but I think they are the minority. With you showing no symptoms I think you'll be on your own.

If I had it to do over I would have skipped the dealer altogether. At the time OPDA's were new under $100 and I would have been able to dissect mine. The dealer said the cam was fine (as expected) so they did nothing. They even failed to reinstall a new gasket so when I got it back it was leaking oil at the hold down bolt.

Pull it and inspect. Then you'll know. Maybe you'll be okay. If it does show wear, make a decision. Prepare to fight with the dealer for coverage or go on your own.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 11:32 AM   #2452
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Just ran across this new thread in case anyone wants to know what Laughing Monkey sounds like. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/so...y-out-1300892/
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Unread 12-13-2011, 11:55 AM   #2453
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Just ran across this new thread in case anyone wants to know what Laughing Monkey sounds like. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/so...y-out-1300892/
That's me

I guess I'm ordering this today and taking tomorrow off to install it.

98K on my '05 LJ, and I have never had it in to the dealer, so I don't expect to get anything from them.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 11:59 AM   #2454
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That's me

I guess I'm ordering this today and taking tomorrow off to install it.

98K on my '05 LJ, and I have never had it in to the dealer, so I don't expect to get anything from them.
Links are on the first page. Don't order from the dealer.

I drove around with mine squealing for about two weeks.

If you need to, take it out now and disassemble and clean. You will need a T25 to remove the cover bolts, 1/2 wrench for the hold down, and a 3/16 punch for the roll pin. Laughing Monkey means the shaft is binding and a cleaning can buy you time. The gear is likely shot though.

I don't know where you are in VA, but I'm in Baltimore. If you need to come up for help let me know.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 12:02 PM   #2455
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Links are on the first page. Don't order from the dealer.

I drove around with mine squealing for about two weeks.

If you need to, take it out now and disassemble and clean. You will need a T25 to remove the cover bolts, 1/2 wrench for the hold down, and a 3/16 punch for the roll pin. Laughing Monkey means the shaft is binding and a cleaning can buy you time. The gear is likely shot though.

I don't know where you are in VA, but I'm in Baltimore. If you need to come up for help let me know.
Thanks for the message. I work in downtown DC and live in Manassas. Right now the truck is sitting in a parking garage and I'm at work without my tools. I might see if Geico will tow it home since I have tow on my insurance.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 01:44 PM   #2456
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What Willy says plus when you have it apart oil the bushings (mostly the top one) & the shaft pretty good. It should spin a lot better. If the gear is not too bad you s/b good for a while.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 01:45 PM   #2457
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For replacing the OPDA, I'm guessing I should mark the old unit as per the forum posts prior to removing it and transfer those markings over to the new unit? That sound about right?

Also, does the seal/gasket come with the OPDA, I ordered it and wasn't sure if the seal was included.

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Unread 12-13-2011, 02:33 PM   #2458
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For replacing the OPDA, I'm guessing I should mark the old unit as per the forum posts prior to removing it and transfer those markings over to the new unit? That sound about right?

Also, does the seal/gasket come with the OPDA, I ordered it and wasn't sure if the seal was included.

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Yes, just match the marks. There is no trick, just a good eye. I've done it on two jeeps (mine and a forum member) with zero problems. The TDC method described on the first page is there if you want it, but IMO adds unnecessary work.

The seal is separate and typically with an old OPDA the seal is fused to the housing. A new one will likely be required. It cost only a few dollars and the PN is on the first page.
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Unread 12-13-2011, 02:51 PM   #2459
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I ordered a replacement shipped overnight and a gasket and am having the Jeep towed home (35 miles through DC-NoVA rush hour traffic, glad it's not my dime). Taking tomorrow off to fix it.

Thanks for all the info, I should be good to go tomorrow.

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Unread 12-13-2011, 03:17 PM   #2460
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This has me a little worried, since im not the most savvy with mechanical stuff..and I know the dealer would tell me its fine til it blows up...Do you think a local mechanic, if I told him the same exact problem and show him that a lot of people have been having this problem that he may inspect it or maybe I should just buy it and have them replace it for peace of mind...

Now i'm afraid, at 60k on the clock now that its a ticking time-bomb, people have had the gear blow at around or slightly before 60k so now its just a matter of time..
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