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post #1846 of 5448 Old 08-17-2011, 04:04 PM
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as of august 16th, is there still no true replacement for this part?

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post #1847 of 5448 Old 08-17-2011, 04:19 PM
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as of august 16th, is there still no true replacement for this part?
Nope, and there never will be from Mopar, almost guaranteed. Haven't heard anything more from Crowne, either.

Good oil and a FOGmod is the only ticket in town at the moment.

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Nope, and there never will be from Mopar, almost guaranteed. Haven't heard anything more from Crowne, either.

Good oil and a FOGmod is the only ticket in town at the moment.
and is moble 1 good oil ???

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Oil is discussed on page 1.
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post #1850 of 5448 Old 08-19-2011, 06:35 AM
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Pulled and checked mine the other day. Spinning the shaft felt smooth but a little tight like a seal rubbing, so I guess its ok for now. My plan is get a new one and Fogmod it and swap it in.

Opinions on the gear wear please?


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That wear doesn't look bad at all.

Does anyone know a torque value for the "distributor" hold down bolt that keeps the OPDA from turning in the block?

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That wear doesn't look bad at all.

Does anyone know a torque value for the "distributor" hold down bolt that keeps the OPDA from turning in the block?
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Good advice about the bolt Willy. I think the bolt is so tight from the factory because they don’t want owners “messing” with it thinking that they can adjust the ignition timing by turning the OPDA - thinking that because that is where the distributor used to be. There is no reason to but it back that tight.
I doubt there is a published torque spec. How would one get a torque wrench in there? It is not like there is much chance of it turning on its own unless you are getting serious binding & possible laughing monkey sounds from the upper bushing so just reasonable judgment should be OK.
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Pulled and checked mine the other day. Spinning the shaft felt smooth but a little tight like a seal rubbing, so I guess its ok for now. My plan is get a new one and Fogmod it and swap it in.

Opinions on the gear wear please?
The wear pattern is wider than ideal but not terrible. I would suggest that you pull the shaft out & give it & the top bushing a little shot of oil. Remember that the gear only goes back on one way. Mark it before removing.
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I doubt there is a published torque spec. How would one get a torque wrench in there? It is not like there is much chance of it turning on its own unless you are getting serious binding & possible laughing monkey sounds from the upper bushing so just reasonable judgment should be OK.
I just bought a 2 piece distributor wrench that joins the halves using a 3/8 socket connector. I can use a torque wrench using that. When I last had a shop work on it the bolt was pretty loose. I tightened it using a regular wrench until it was pretty tight. I will be good to know how tight I'm getting it.

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I just bought a 2 piece distributor wrench that joins the halves using a 3/8 socket connector. I can use a torque wrench using that. When I last had a shop work on it the bolt was pretty loose. I tightened it using a regular wrench until it was pretty tight. I will be good to know how tight I'm getting it.
Got it. Clever using that 2 piece wrench. You said it was pretty lose but even at that the OPDA obviously did not turn or you would have thrown a CEL code. So a little tighter should be OK. If you really want to pursue it you could search for "typical" torque values for various size bolts & get a ballpark value. Bottom line is you are probably the only one who will have to remove it in the future so make it easy on yourself.

BTW my OPDA is out now & I'm replacing that bolt with a stud & nut to make the process easier, especially the installation.
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The wear pattern is wider than ideal but not terrible. I would suggest that you pull the shaft out & give it & the top bushing a little shot of oil. Remember that the gear only goes back on one way. Mark it before removing.
Sorry I gotta' ask. If the gear only goes back on one way, why the need to mark it?

No time to do the FogMod before my trip so I'm just installing the new one in the old one's place untouched. I'll FogMod the old one (which has only chirped once when it was really cold) as practice and do the new one in the fall. Mind you, I'm only swapping this out because I don't care to ruin my vacation with a seized shaft or a blown gear.
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Sorry I gotta' ask. If the gear only goes back on one way, why the need to mark it?

No time to do the FogMod before my trip so I'm just installing the new one in the old one's place untouched. I'll FogMod the old one (which has only chirped once when it was really cold) as practice and do the new one in the fall. Mind you, I'm only swapping this out because I don't care to ruin my vacation with a seized shaft or a blown gear.
(Edited because I mis-understood initially)

If your old one "chirped," as you said, it's done and I'm not sure it can be resurrected, but it might be possible.

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I just bought a 2 piece distributor wrench that joins the halves using a 3/8 socket connector. I can use a torque wrench using that. When I last had a shop work on it the bolt was pretty loose. I tightened it using a regular wrench until it was pretty tight. I will be good to know how tight I'm getting it.
I don't know that you will get an accurate torque on that bolt using a distributor wrench with a torque wrench on it..... even though you are using a ratchet, the force is applied in more of a manner as a traditional box end then a socket.

Curious to know if it does work properly or not.

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Sorry I gotta' ask. If the gear only goes back on one way, why the need to mark it?

No time to do the FogMod before my trip so I'm just installing the new one in the old one's place untouched. I'll FogMod the old one (which has only chirped once when it was really cold) as practice and do the new one in the fall. Mind you, I'm only swapping this out because I don't care to ruin my vacation with a seized shaft or a blown gear.
Well marking it is more for awareness. Someone here recently had his 180 out & the holes did not quite line up but he forced it & broke the gear.

Your trip isn't to Tennessee is it? Anyway, good luck & be safe.
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To clarify: It can go back in in a variety of positions, but only one will allow your engine to run...mark it. As for installing a new one, use the TDC method or it ain't going to work except by miraculous coincidence.
I think Ruby4MyMrs was talking about the gear going on the shaft.
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