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post #1 of 21 Old 08-23-2017, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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2004 Wrangler - Short Towing Distance

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I'm 70 years old and relocating for health reasons. Will be 'flatbed transporting' the Wrangler 6 Cylinder Automatic and 'Small Utility Trailer' to Tucson. I replaced the bearings and tires on the trailer and will sell it after I get out there. Its a nice 2002 Pace American. After I arrive I'll need to tow the trailer about 4 miles (within the town no open highway) to get from point A to point B. The Trailer's weight is 1,000 Lbs with a cargo capacity of 1500 but keeping both Trailer and Cargo down to 2,000 lbs. (no electric brakes). The hitch is a Hidden Hitch with a capacity of 3500 lbs. and tongue weight no more than 300 lbs. I've read horror stories on Trailer Sites which state its dangerous and not advisable to use a Wrangler for any kind of towing. I'd never try anything stupid, just hauling books, a few computers, TV's, small audio gear and clothing. I'd also want to carefully adjust the cargo and tongue weight properly. Safer than most drivers, I always drive under the limit. Do you guys have any suggestions?

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post #2 of 21 Old 08-24-2017, 12:10 AM
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Keep a safe following distance and stay at 55 or under and you will be ok.

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I recently moved and towed a couch, bed, washing machine and 500lbs of weights with no problems. I moved 20 miles away.
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Hi Gang

I'm 70 years old and relocating for health reasons. Will be 'flatbed transporting' the Wrangler 6 Cylinder Automatic and 'Small Utility Trailer' to Tucson. I replaced the bearings and tires on the trailer and will sell it after I get out there. Its a nice 2002 Pace American. After I arrive I'll need to tow the trailer about 4 miles (within the town no open highway) to get from point A to point B. The Trailer's weight is 1,000 Lbs with a cargo capacity of 1500 but keeping both Trailer and Cargo down to 2,000 lbs. (no electric brakes). The hitch is a Hidden Hitch with a capacity of 3500 lbs. and tongue weight no more than 300 lbs. I've read horror stories on Trailer Sites which state its dangerous and not advisable to use a Wrangler for any kind of towing. I'd never try anything stupid, just hauling books, a few computers, TV's, small audio gear and clothing. I'd also want to carefully adjust the cargo and tongue weight properly. Safer than most drivers, I always drive under the limit. Do you guys have any suggestions?

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I did a few moves with my TJ pulling open and closed cargo trailers. I have pulled weight from about 1k to about 3K for distances up to 1700 miles.


When I pulled the 3K from CA to MO the front end was light but it pulled straight. I pulled about 1K from TN to CA, and no issues other normal issues with pulling a trailer.


I am not recommending pulling 3K.
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I routinely towed a boat across Florida with my Wrangler. An empty trailer should be no issue whatsoever.
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Drag our lawnmower and 4 wheeler around locally on a 2 axle car trailer, no problem.
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post #7 of 21 Old 08-24-2017, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks Big AL !

Thanks Jeff !

Thanks elpaisa !

Thanks TheBoogieman !

Thanks Ross !

I'll try to keep the total weight right around 2K and will only be driving short distances until I get settled.

You guys have been great!
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post #8 of 21 Old 08-24-2017, 02:34 PM
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I tow regularly with both my 4.0L 2006 auto and my 2.5L '98 standard. Both tow well for reasonable weight. Believe it or not they are both rated for 2000 lbs. I towed 1 ton of pellets at a time every fall multiple times per season for a number of years without issue.

Not sure who said you shouldn't tow with a wrangler but I imagine they wouldn't have a tow rating if they were unsafe for towing. Stay under the weight rating and drive conservatively and you will be fine.

I also plow with mine, but you won't be needing that out in Tuscon . Good luck to you.

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post #9 of 21 Old 08-24-2017, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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Hi There JSt

Thanx for the encouraging comments. As you can see I'm older and definitely want to stay safe. Have you ever accidentally gone over the limit of 2,000 lbs.? If I use caution in weight distribution and only drive a few miles to my destination do you think I could haul about 1200 lbs. with the 1,000 lb. trailer?

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post #10 of 21 Old 08-24-2017, 08:56 PM
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Hi There JSt

Thanx for the encouraging comments. As you can see I'm older and definitely want to stay safe. Have you ever accidentally gone over the limit of 2,000 lbs.? If I use caution in weight distribution and only drive a few miles to my destination do you think I could haul about 1200 lbs. with the 1,000 lb. trailer?

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You are safer to err on the side of too much tongue weight rather than too little. Too little can lead to out of control swaying of the trailer which will be something that will at a minimum cost you a new pair of shorts, and at most, your life, your rig and your trailer.

I have used mine to move a Jeep loaded on a fairly heavy trailer around the yard and I'd never touch pavement with it. But I'd have no issue with what you are trying to do.
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Roger That - I understand perfectly - Thanks again!

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Since Blaine has weighed in, I'll add some details - while I could not modify my wheel base, a major factor in towing capacity, I did modify my brakes (Vanco's Big Brake kit by MrBlaine), suspension with heavy duty springs, and gearing to accommodate my trailering better. At the risk of once again opening up myself to a bunch of abuse, I routinely towed a 2800-3000lb combo and had zero issues. However, this was in South FL, where the biggest hill around is the municipal dump.

As for places saying you should never tow with a Wrangler, I know at least two trailer rental places that, as a matter of corporate policy, will not rent to you if you are driving a Wrangler. Engineering and specifications be damned, this is plain lawyering.
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As for places saying you should never tow with a Wrangler, I know at least two trailer rental places that, as a matter of corporate policy, will not rent to you if you are driving a Wrangler. Engineering and specifications be damned, this is plain lawyering.
U-Haul won't rent to you if you have a soft top. Not Wrangler-specific. Don't know if that's one of the two you mentioned.



Every year, I tow this bad boy home and back so I can decorate the house for Christmas. 3400 pounds, just under the capacity of the LJ (3500 pounds). Even with the Vanco BBK, I'm always a bit nervous as my stopping distance is greatly increased, so I always take the back roads. Personally, I'd never do it with a SWB TJ.

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Hi There JSt

Thanx for the encouraging comments. As you can see I'm older and definitely want to stay safe. Have you ever accidentally gone over the limit of 2,000 lbs.? If I use caution in weight distribution and only drive a few miles to my destination do you think I could haul about 1200 lbs. with the 1,000 lb. trailer?

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When I used to tow the 1 ton of pellets that didn't include the weight of the trailer; I knew I was over the tow rating by at least 4 to 5 hundred pounds so I took remote roads, kept it slow, and gave myself plenty of time for braking. I also made sure that the weight was distributed a bit more up front than back. Being a little heavier at the tongue seems to give you a bit more control.

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post #15 of 21 Old 08-25-2017, 01:46 PM
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towed my Tent trailer almost every weekend for 5 years with my 97 TJ. 1200lbs with gear , no issues. Like others said leave some distance and make sure tongue weight is accurate. No brakes on my trailer either.
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