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Unread 12-20-2010, 01:36 PM   #16
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Yes,but you'll need longer shocks,sway bar end links and probably a t case drop/MML if you don't already have a SYE.
A T case Drop with 4" of total suspension lift???? SERIOUSLY!? Ah, no. To do that, he would have to add at least 2" spacers to the T-Case Drop. That is with using a 1" MML. Ask me how I know.

If you are going to 4" of lift YOU MUST HAVE A SYE kit.

An SYE kit is not one of those: "Gee, that would be a neat option.", kind of upgrade. It's a lot more like "CRAP, I can't get rid of these damn vibes that are destroying my universals, and transfer case, I NEED an SYE...NOW!"

If you want to go to that lift height, get the SYE and DC drive shaft installed first, then start with the other suspension changes.

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Unread 12-20-2010, 01:49 PM   #17
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If you are going to 4" of lift YOU MUST HAVE A SYE kit.
Naw, you can lower the t-case. I had the stock driveshaft WITHOUT a lowering kit for a while with hardly any vibes. Every jeep is different. You'll be fine with just the t-case lowered.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 02:05 PM   #18
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Naw, you can lower the t-case. I had the stock driveshaft WITHOUT a lowering kit for a while with hardly any vibes. Every jeep is different. You'll be fine with just the t-case lowered.
With HARDLY any vibes?!?! ANY vibes is bad, and just because you may not 'feel' them, doesn't mean they are not there. Anything over 2-1/2" of lift without dropping the T-case to stock angles OR an SYE kit, will cause vibes, ergo, damage that can become very expensive.

To the OP, do what you want, but taking advise that having only 'some vibes', or 'hardly any vibes' is not that bad? That is just bad advice.

4" of lift requires an SYE. Period
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Unread 12-20-2010, 02:12 PM   #19
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With HARDLY any vibes?!?! ANY vibes is bad, and just because you may not 'feel' them, doesn't mean they are not there. Anything over 2-1/2" of lift without dropping the T-case to stock angles OR an SYE kit, will cause vibes, ergo, damage that can become very expensive.

To the OP, do what you want, but taking advise that having only 'some vibes', or 'hardly any vibes' is not that bad? That is just bad advice.

4" of lift requires an SYE. Period
Agreed. Do it right and get the SYE.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 02:15 PM   #20
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Or go with AEV 3'' springs with Currie arms with some good shocks (OME, Bilstein). If he's only clearing 33's anything over that is unnecessary IMHO...he doesn't need to be dropping springs like someone I know...
Ha! But it's so much fun to watch as your front driver side spring falls out while coming off of an obstacle. Try it .
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Unread 12-20-2010, 02:17 PM   #21
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My skyjacker has been a great lift...(4in), I've had it for a long time prolly 30k miles, and never had an issue. I wheeled alot when I first got it. Not sure why everyone hates the "cheaper" lifts. Not everyone goes to Moab and climbs mountains. My lift suits me just fine and was under 800 bucks.. BTW My t case is dropped as well, that is a must like the above guy said, but this came with my lift. I run 33" BFG MT's, and still on my orignal set with over 30k miles on them. Ordering a set of AT"s due to my city driving more than offroad. But to the OP you don't have to spend 3k to have fun. If you;re not a hardcore wheeler, get a cheaper lift, mine's held up great, yea it might not "flex" or perform like the expensive ones but I could care less, it looks great, has great clearance, and gets me wherever i need to go. Good luck
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Everyone keeps saying that 3" of lift is plenty for 33" tires, but the more space I have above the tires gives me more flex room between my fender flares and tires, right? Or is this just a misconception that I have. I feel like my tires will rub pretty hard against my fender flares if I try to flex very much.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 06:14 PM   #23
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Everyone keeps saying that 3" of lift is plenty for 33" tires, but the more space I have above the tires gives me more flex room between my fender flares and tires, right? Or is this just a misconception that I have. I feel like my tires will rub pretty hard against my fender flares if I try to flex very much.
Flex is not all about uptravel.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 06:21 PM   #24
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But if one tire is going way down, then the other has to go just as far up, right?
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Unread 12-20-2010, 06:32 PM   #25
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But if one tire is going way down, then the other has to go just as far up, right?
Nope, that's what the bump stop is for...
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Unread 12-20-2010, 06:35 PM   #26
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oh, okay. If i disconnect sway bars, but stock coil springs with spacers on front, will I be able to get much flex?
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Unread 12-20-2010, 06:38 PM   #27
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and do you disconnect sway bars in rear too when offroading?
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Unread 12-20-2010, 07:00 PM   #28
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and do you disconnect sway bars in rear too when offroading?
No do not disco the rear. And you won't get as much flex from the stock coil as you would a progressive rate coil like AEV sells.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 07:48 PM   #29
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I know this must seem like 20 questions.
From your pics, you had a ton of flex on the rear. the rear sway bar connects don't hinder that flex?
And before, you recommended the 3" AEV coil springs and currie control arms. How much did you pay for the control arms, and did you get upper and lower?
Thanks for the help!
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I know this must seem like 20 questions.
From your pics, you had a ton of flex on the rear. the rear sway bar connects don't hinder that flex?
And before, you recommended the 3" AEV coil springs and currie control arms. How much did you pay for the control arms, and did you get upper and lower?
Thanks for the help!
Haha that's alright. Yea the rear sway bar does not hinder flex at all (obviously). At the moment I am running the OME kit but I will soon be moving to the AEV coils. I got all 8 CA's used for around 600, but talk to Gerald from Savvy (his username is Savvy) and he can normally get you a pretty good deal on some new CA's.
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