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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:01 PM   #1
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2004 Rubicon drives like dog crap

I have a 2004 Rubicon that drives like dog crap.

I know nothing about suspensions, but mine feels totally shot.

How I can get a better driving jeep without putting in a lift kit?

Can anyone recommend a good all-inclusive kit, or brand of shocks to use?

My jeep is stock except I added a Warn 9.5 si winch.

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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:02 PM   #2
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How many miles are on the jeep? Auto or stick?
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Did it drive fine before the winch?
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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:05 PM   #5
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yeah, but I put the winch on in 2005. It has been fine until the last year, year-and-a-half that it has got really bad.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:07 PM   #6
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now it feels like there is no suspension at all. every time i go over a bump *bang* the whole jeep raddles. Id really like to getting riding nice again.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:12 PM   #7
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Are you typing this out as your driving? Because it went from bad to none in 6 minutes.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:17 PM   #8
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lol, no. No suspension may be a little bit of an over exaggeration, but it's really bad.

do you have any ideas on what a I could do to fix it? Is it enough usually to just get new shocks?

do you change the springs too? I heard someone say something about a steering damper.
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It's probably a combination of the firmer Rubicon springs with worn out shocks, worn out control arm bushings, and load range D or E tires that are over-inflated. Replace your shocks and bushings and air your tires down and it should make things drastically better... of course if your going to tear into it that much then you are already doing most of the work involved in doing a lift. As far as recommending a lift, that all depends on what you are doing. Personnaly I went with a Currie 4" on my 2005 Rubicon LJ and it rides better than stock now.
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Well welcome to the forum, and you should fill out your profile so people can help you out. But to answer your question it sounds as though you have some worn out parts. How is the front end sitting compared to the back? Check center of flare to to ground to get an idea. With a winch on the front it can accelerate wear on components, and with the roads in NJ stuff wears out even faster.
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Hey stwilson74, Thanks for the advice. I will replace the shocks and bushings. Do you have any recommendations on what brand to use? How does that 4" lift affect your gas mileage? I was considering the 2.5 OME lift, but as you know the Rubicon doesn't get the best gas mileage to begin with the lift and bigger tires i was afraid I wouldn't want to travel to far from home.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 09:50 PM   #12
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Jrob05, I will update it now. haha. I guess you know these roads well. They are especially bad after those storms we had over the winter. My jeep is a 2004 rubicon totally stock except the winch. I will check the heights.

I am going to look around for the best brands of shocks. Please let me know if you have any part suggestions. Do you get offroad much?
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seems like Rancho RS9000XL is the most expensive at $105 each. do you think thats the best
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lol, no. No suspension may be a little bit of an over exaggeration, but it's really bad.

do you have any ideas on what a I could do to fix it? Is it enough usually to just get new shocks?

do you change the springs too? I heard someone say something about a steering damper.
Please tell us your tire pressure.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 10:38 PM   #15
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They are a little below the 44 lbs suggested.
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