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Unread 07-13-2010, 12:50 PM   #46
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@Yates - it is possible that the OP's is rebodied like yours. Would that work around the PCM issue?

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Unread 07-13-2010, 12:50 PM   #47
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I've already covered the accessory drive difference.

I will say, the late model intake swap is a piece of cake... I have one on my rig so that a late model intake is there is not surprising to me. I am still perpelexed by the PCM though.... something weird going on there.....

All of that aside, it is very very difficult however, to get an early model motor to work in a late model truck due the accessory drive amongst other things.

My take it is a rebodied Jeep.... not a true 02. More like a crashed or theft recovery 97/98 and rebodied/rebadged to pump up the value.
I mean the mounting of the water pump. There's apparently an extra screw on the 2000. Facing the front of the motor, it's the top right corner.

I still haven't figured out if I can make a 98 block work with 2000 ignition, brackets, etc. The 98 blocks are easy to find and dirt cheap.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 12:58 PM   #48
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Can you take a pic of the fuel tank skid? 2002 should have the improved one.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:05 PM   #49
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@Yates - it is possible that the OP's is rebodied like yours. Would that work around the PCM issue?
My truck is not rebodied, salvaged or reconstructed... it is a 98 and is titled as a 98. I simply swapped in a late model longblock during my 4.0 build up because I got a great deal on a low milage piece from a guy who was swapping a hemi. I had 95K on my original motor and it was easier to swap in the long block than rebuild what I had but thats another story.

I am running a distributor based ignition, coil and PCM on the late model block but it doen't know its a late model block...everything mounted to it other than the intake swap is stock 98 stuff.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:07 PM   #50
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My 2002 also has the VIN stamped on the frame under the passenger seat area. This is all very interesting to me, and local.....




edit: Yours might be slightly harder to see because of the step.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:09 PM   #51
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My truck is not rebodied, salvaged or reconstructed... it is a 98 and is titled as a 98. I simply swapped in a late model longblock during my 4.0 build up because I got a great deal on a low milage piece from a guy who was swapping a hemi. I had 95K on my original motor and it was easier to swap in the long block than rebuild what I had but thats another story.

I am running a distributor based ignition, coil and PCM on the late model block but it doen't know its a late model block...everything mounted to it other than the intake swap is stock 98 stuff.
I misread your post, sorry.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:11 PM   #52
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I mean the mounting of the water pump. There's apparently an extra screw on the 2000. Facing the front of the motor, it's the top right corner.

I still haven't figured out if I can make a 98 block work with 2000 ignition, brackets, etc. The 98 blocks are easy to find and dirt cheap.
You can't really get a 98 block to work, at least without alot of work, on a late model Jeep... its missing a casting for the accessory drive. As for the water pump, there is more than an extra mounting bolt... the orientation is completely different.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:30 PM   #53
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Engine build code info is from the Factory service manual. You can view them online at Jeep Service Manuals

You can print out relevant pages.

Select TJ/year/engine. The engine build date code is explained near the start of the section under the heading Engine-Description.

As for the VIN, can't remember where I heard that but I checked my engine and it is there, not sure if I could have made it out easily without comparing it to my VIN for reference. It is very difficult to read.
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You can't really get a 98 block to work, at least without alot of work, on a late model Jeep... its missing a casting for the accessory drive. As for the water pump, there is more than an extra mounting bolt... the orientation is completely different.
That's what I figured. Oh well, I'll find a deal on the right block eventually, and if I don't I'll just stuff in a 4.3 or small block.
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I'd like to see more pictures...betcha it doesn't pass federal emissions and i'll bet the equipment is missing...big time fine on the dealer there! Take more pictures and post um up. I'm sure there is something wrong you can stand on the dealer with. NOway it can meet 02 federal standards with a 87 engine. The ignition and camshaft are different plus many other things just to start off with.
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You can't really get a 98 block to work, at least without alot of work, on a late model Jeep... its missing a casting for the accessory drive. As for the water pump, there is more than an extra mounting bolt... the orientation is completely different.

When I did my v8 swap I sold my i6 to a guy with a 2002 TJ. He had it installed and running within a couple of days. I'm not sure what he had to do to make it work, but I'm pretty sure he left all the 98 accessories on it from my jeep. I didn't sell him the computer, just the motor and accessories, so I'm pretty sure he is running it on his late model comp.
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When checking yesterday the "history" of the Jeep, I notice 2002 Sahara has Sentry Key, full door and something else for the first year. Mine has the three options. So I guess we can assume it's a 2002 body...

I'm going to the Sheriff Department tonight to see if they can check and run the VIN or where I can have it done.

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Florida does not have emmissions.(or state income tax)
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When checking yesterday the "history" of the Jeep, I notice 2002 Sahara has Sentry Key, full door and something else for the first year. Mine has the three options. So I guess we can assume it's a 2002 body...

I'm going to the Sheriff Department tonight to see if they can check and run the VIN or where I can have it done.

@ SeanCucf
I will recommend not buying any vehicle from an independent and specialized Jeep dealer in Tampa...
IM me the VIN and I'll run it for you, at least as much as I can. I can't use the NLETS terminal at work to check it since I'm out sick for a while, but I can run it a different way and get a few bits of info for you.

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Florida does not have emmissions.(or state income tax)
That emissions equipment law is federal.
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Unread 07-13-2010, 01:51 PM   #60
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@SFT2

I'll do it as soon as I will be back home.

My Jeep, based on Carfax information was originally sold as a California vehicle. I'm wondering if, even in Florida, it had to comply only with Federal requirements or Federal and Californian one.
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