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Unread 08-25-2012, 11:29 PM   #16
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LOL, I got vibes when I installed a 2" suspension lift. I 1st got rid of them by dropping my transfer case with a few washers, then I removed the washers and raised my transfer case back to stock position after I installed my JKS body and motor mount lift lit.

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[Edit] "Now jeepin in Oregon" [/Edit]
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Unread 08-26-2012, 01:35 AM   #17
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OP- Before you start in on the lifts etc..

Get the following:

A come-along, a high lift, some 1.75 coil spacers, and sway bar disconnects, and most important, usually free- a good spotter and some common sense.

Don't forget to air down to 15-18 psi.
And learn how to use your e brake for traction too.

With all that, you will pretty much be able to wheel the majority of the trails out there and get by just fine with no dl vibes. Plus I probably just saved ya three hundred fifty bucks.

Try wheeling like that for a while. It will teach you way more finesse and skill than just rolling and sliding over stuff.
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Unread 08-26-2012, 07:12 AM   #18
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OP- Before you start in on the lifts etc..

Get the following:

A come-along, a high lift, some 1.75 coil spacers, and sway bar disconnects, and most important, usually free- a good spotter and some common sense.

Don't forget to air down to 15-18 psi.
And learn how to use your e brake for traction too.

With all that, you will pretty much be able to wheel the majority of the trails out there and get by just fine with no dl vibes. Plus I probably just saved ya three hundred fifty bucks.

Try wheeling like that for a while. It will teach you way more finesse and skill than just rolling and sliding over stuff.


This is great advice.
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Unread 08-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #19
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Alright this a little off topic but what exactly does a hilift do I see them everywhere
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Unread 08-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #20
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A high lift is a jack. It can be used to jack the jeep up or when set up correctly it can be used as a recovery tool, a poor mans winch so to speak.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 06:24 AM   #21
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Alright. I will check out the spacers what is the max tire size. I want to run 33 but I don't think 1.75 is enough. Also any shock suggestions?
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Unread 08-27-2012, 03:26 PM   #22
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Alright. I will check out the spacers what is the max tire size. I want to run 33 but I don't think 1.75 is enough. Also any shock suggestions?
Bump stops if you go bigger than 31s.
Or you'll end up with some funky fresh rubbed n bent front fenders. Which will cause you to spend more money.

If you go to 33s you may start feeling the jeep seem underpowered and lugged down a bit.
Which may open the door for re-gearing and more money spending... Which wives and girlfriends don't like (unless it's for them).

If you're trying to save money stick to 31s or 32s. Get some bump stops, and follow my previous advice and have fun wheeling.

* I had more fun wheeling when I started with my almost stock SE TJ jeep going places my buddies and I bet on us not getting to (and back) than I have with my over-trail rated rubi locked lifted etc that just drives over everything.
It's almost like it's not a challenge anymore for me. If I throw more difficult terrain at it (more than double black diamond trails) I realize I should have a buggy built for it, or a cheap 80s Toyota I don't care about getting rashed up and broken, which I feel would take a lot of fun out of it for me.
In my opinion, I guess pushing capable limits is easier done closest to stock form- and seems a lot more fun... getting something there and back, that required skill and ingenuity with a little finesse, rather than big tires/lift/lockers/& winch. If ya know what I mean.

I am more impressed and entertained by a stock jeep passing through difficult terrain, than a built one just rolling right over it. There's a lot of tricks and old grampa wheeling tips that get rigs places that amaze me. I think trying to stick close to stock form is what true jeeping is all about. Your daily driver doing neat un believable stuff.

Hi-lifts are nice if you get hung up on something to get your rig up off of it and something like a log or some rocks underneath tires to get ya going again.

The come along is the poor mans winch.
That particular tool has saved my butt more times than my 10k winch has, and it's a 10th of the weight.

As for shocks, if you stick to 1.75" spacers and 31-32" tires you should be able to get by using stock ones.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 08:06 PM   #23
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Alright. I have been doing a ton of research and I have looked at a 2 inch bb or just a 2 coil lift. What ever I get I will have for a long time so I thought to get new coils would be a good thing.

I need to get a come a long. Will come handy I bet
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Unread 08-27-2012, 08:19 PM   #24
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Go with the coils. I did the spacer lift originally and I was never happy with the ride. Plus, when I took it off the spacers one of them was starting to split. I think you'll be much happier with coils.
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Unread 08-27-2012, 08:51 PM   #25
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Not entirely true if its a 3" suspension lift...
3" suspension lift, 1.25" BL, 1" MML, and no SYE or TC drop necessary..
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Unread 08-27-2012, 08:51 PM   #26
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Alright. I will check out the spacers what is the max tire size. I want to run 33 but I don't think 1.75 is enough. Also any shock suggestions?
I ran 33s with 2" budget boost (spacer lift), and now run 35s with 2 1/2 progressive coils. Keys are flat fenders, correct wheel offset, bumpstops set carefully for travel.

Cheap: Used 2" coil spacers, use stock shocks at first, then later pick up some good shocks. Don't run 33s, rubber costs. Especially when you add big bucks for regear.

I always get a kick out of guys who worry about the hundred dollar difference in lift costs but ignore that running 33s costs 400 bucks more in rubber. 800 if you get appropriate offset wheels.

Modifying a Jeep costs money. Wheeling - and breaking - costs significantly more. Don't forget that fuel economy tends to drop as tires get bigger and the Jeep gets heavier...
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Unread 08-27-2012, 09:33 PM   #27
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3" suspension lift, 1.25" BL, 1" MML, and no SYE or TC drop necessary..
Not all Jeeps are the same, some will and some won't requiore a TC drop or SYE with that setup...
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Unread 08-28-2012, 04:18 AM   #28
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I installed the rough country 3.25" lift. The only thing the kit does not come with is the transfer case linkage drop which you can buy or easily make. The kit is $369 plus if you call to order it you can get another 10% off. I added shock boots and a new steering stabilizer and had it all delivered for a little over $400. I've been running it for a few months and love it.
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Unread 08-28-2012, 07:52 AM   #29
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I just installed the Zone 3" lift and couldn't be happier. The transfer case drop bolts they sent me were the wrong length but the local hardware store had the ones I needed for about $10.
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Unread 08-28-2012, 08:26 AM   #30
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Rusty's should not even be considered as an option.

Get a GOOD set of 2.5" coils and a set of Shocks to match. For only 2"-2.5" of lift, you have a very reasonable budget with $500. Look into Old Man Emu coils or another qood quality spring. The coils arn't something you want to cheap out on from the beginning.
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