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post #46 of 98 Old 11-20-2012, 03:28 AM
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Gotta love Aircraft Remover.
It really is great stuff used it on a bicycle to get paint out of nooks and crannies. How much did you need for whole tub?

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post #47 of 98 Old 11-20-2012, 09:05 AM Thread Starter
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It really is great stuff used it on a bicycle to get paint out of nooks and crannies. How much did you need for whole tub?
I think I bought a quart of it for $15 at autozone. If I just do the outside of the tub and the hood and fenders, I may get away with only having to use 2 quarts.

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post #48 of 98 Old 11-21-2012, 03:00 PM Thread Starter
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Time to get organize. Im using this thread as a place to plan out my attack.

In this order:
1. finish removing various parts that are still on the frame (exhaust, fuel lines, etc)
2. sand frame to remove debris and prepare for POR15
3. drain all the fluids, repair bad seals, and check gears/TC chain
4. give the drivetrain a good once over with a degreaser
5. Sand blast all accessories that need attention
Side question, will one of those small sand blasters from HF do an ok job of removing paint from small items and rust from things like the leaf springs?
6. finish removing all the paint from the outside of the tub, hood, and fenders.
7. weld patches on the tub
----That should take me to the end of the tough stuff.
8. POR15 the frame, axles, and skid plate.
9. paint the outside of tub, hood, and fenders
10. bedline the underside and inside of the tub
11. Start reassembling the frame parts (exhaust, gas tank, etc...)
12. Refill all fluids
13. Put the tub back on.
------Now its time to figure out the electronics.
14. All the dash and interior parts and fixing everything that I missed.



So I am selling the full steel doors that came with the Jeep, they are in great shape and the bids are already up to $250 on eBay. Im also selling the nerf bar steps to make room for these (http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-ne...j8.htm#sliders)

So between the sale of those two things, I should have enough to afford the necessities (POR15, paint, bedliner, etc...)

How do I know if my leaf springs should be replaced?

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post #49 of 98 Old 11-24-2012, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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Found some prior patch work... Pretty weak attempt at patching it... More like hiding rust with a fresh piece of steel and some bondo.

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Sanded down the back quarter panel and found more bondo work, used to cover small dents...



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Drained some transmission fluid. Looks a little murky.



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Here is a piece of the bondo I broke off



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Through all the grime and layers of paint, I found this.


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Took the front drive shaft off; may take it into a local shop to see what shape it's in.

Tomorrow I may try to cut out the rest of the rust and figure out how to tackle the rest of this beast.

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Found this. May be the best way to tackle this mess.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/22522_02_07.htm

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post #51 of 98 Old 11-24-2012, 07:34 PM
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The Jeep logo was covered up??? Wow! That's crazy.

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The Jeep logo was covered up??? Wow! That's crazy.
Not completely, but there were so many layers of paint and primer and bondo that it was almost flat with the body.

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post #53 of 98 Old 11-29-2012, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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I think ive decided to track down a new tub, this one is just too far gone. Ive been searching around for a YJ tub... It doesnt have to be pretty because its getting a paint job, it just has to be *almost* rust free.

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Lets see some pics of what is considered "too far gone" you'd be surprised how easily most areas of rust are patched and filled.

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Phase One : 5.3L Vortec/4L60E, Moser axles for AMC20, Twin Stick'd Dana300 - Completed
Phase Two: Bedliner, Rollcage, Seats, BESRK Rear Bumper w/ tire swing, Soft Top, and a few other goodies - Mostly Complete
Phase Three: Waggy 44 front, Scout D44 Rear, 4.56's, ARB's (F/R) SOA with YJ Springs, 35x12.50x15 BFG MT - Not Even Close to beginning

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Lets see some pics of what is considered "too far gone" you'd be surprised how easily most areas of rust are patched and filled.
Check out post #49. Both rocker panels are completely rusted through, and as you may be able to see, its through to the floor boards.

Replacement panels are only $25 online, but I worry that with the rot as deep as it is, that the body wont be sturdy, even after welding on the new panels...

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yeah I missed those pics the first time looking at this from my phone... On second thought, a mid 90's YJ tub sounds like a great idea!

1985 CJ7 Project
Phase One : 5.3L Vortec/4L60E, Moser axles for AMC20, Twin Stick'd Dana300 - Completed
Phase Two: Bedliner, Rollcage, Seats, BESRK Rear Bumper w/ tire swing, Soft Top, and a few other goodies - Mostly Complete
Phase Three: Waggy 44 front, Scout D44 Rear, 4.56's, ARB's (F/R) SOA with YJ Springs, 35x12.50x15 BFG MT - Not Even Close to beginning

Also a mostly rust-free 1970 Scout 800A That I'll get to start working on someday...

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Yeah... Ill start looking at junk yards... I want so bad to keep the original tub, but I just dont have the skills or tools necessary to do a good job. The fenders, hood and grill are great... So ill find a YJ tub (maybe with a family roll cage already) and use that.

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do some research as well into using the YJ vs CJ windshield frame. The plumbing is different for the wipers and defroster...might be easier to use the YJ stuff and adapt to make it look CJ-ish

1985 CJ7 Project
Phase One : 5.3L Vortec/4L60E, Moser axles for AMC20, Twin Stick'd Dana300 - Completed
Phase Two: Bedliner, Rollcage, Seats, BESRK Rear Bumper w/ tire swing, Soft Top, and a few other goodies - Mostly Complete
Phase Three: Waggy 44 front, Scout D44 Rear, 4.56's, ARB's (F/R) SOA with YJ Springs, 35x12.50x15 BFG MT - Not Even Close to beginning

Also a mostly rust-free 1970 Scout 800A That I'll get to start working on someday...

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So how long do I sand/strip/grind before I feel like im making progress.

But seriously, im making progress, slowly but surely. When I get tired of pluggin away at the body (which ive decided to keep and attempt to recover), im replacing bad seals and prepping the frame for a coat of POR.

I think ive seen somewhere that someone had put rolling carts under each tire, enabling them to move the jeep around... What weight specs would I need in order to do the same? It would be really nice to be able to move the Jeep chassis around while working on it in my small garage.

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So how long do I sand/strip/grind before I feel like im making progress.

But seriously, im making progress, slowly but surely. When I get tired of pluggin away at the body (which ive decided to keep and attempt to recover), im replacing bad seals and prepping the frame for a coat of POR.

I think ive seen somewhere that someone had put rolling carts under each tire, enabling them to move the jeep around... What weight specs would I need in order to do the same? It would be really nice to be able to move the Jeep chassis around while working on it in my small garage.
You are at the point where you spend a lot of time doing prep work, which feels like you have nothing to show. Won't be long until you have a nice shiny frame!

Check out my Build
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/gregs-86-cj7-build-thread-1421551/
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