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Unread 04-07-2013, 06:34 AM   #1
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Is it worth picking up a 401?

I've located a 401 with the usual description "turns over by hand, running when pulled" Which to me translates into "requires rebuild at the least" The guy is asking $1500 for the long block. I have a 304 in my '83 now. I also have a good 360 on an engine stand. My question then becomes, Is the 401 that much better than the 360 to drop the coin on it?

I'd prefer to hear opinions from anyone who has had both a 360 and a 401.

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Unread 04-07-2013, 08:40 AM   #2
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Wow, is a running 401 of unknown wear/condition really worth $1500?

That price seems pretty excessive if he doesn't have video of it running so you can see if it smokes, knocks etc.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 08:42 AM   #3
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I'm in the same boat with one I've tried to sell. Mine ran when it was pulled, but I can't prove it to a potential buyer and I was asking a LOT less than $1500.

I'm not wnating to use mine as I believe I can get as much power out of a Chevy 6.0 and have a better running engine for the money.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 08:50 AM   #4
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no.. there are plenty of 401's out there a lot more reasonable!.. keep looking, take your time.. $1500 is outrageous.. there's one on craigslist in Seattle for a 1/3 that..
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I have had CJ's with both the 304 stock, slightly modded 304, and a warmed over 401. The 401 was fun, you had to be carefull not to break drivetrain parts and almost always had to fight an overheating issue. Would I do a 401 again-probably not.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 11:34 AM   #6
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I have had CJ's with both the 304 stock, slightly modded 304, and a warmed over 401. The 401 was fun, you had to be carefull not to break drivetrain parts and almost always had to fight an overheating issue. Would I do a 401 again-probably not.
that's pretty much why I put louvers in the hood, to let out heat.. otherwise, my drivetrain was beefy enough to handle the power, and it had an "E" series RAJAY turbo on it..
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Unread 04-07-2013, 12:12 PM   #7
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Sounds like as though this one is over priced. It's the first one I've seen locally pop up in the past few years of checking every do often. Thanks for the input guys. I'll be reading if anyone else had anything to add.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 01:43 PM   #8
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I bought my non-running 401 for $400 about 2 years ago, that price is pretty high in my opinion. Never driven one with a 360, but no comparison between the fresh 401 and the old worn 304 I had before. Stock mechanical fan and fan shroud solved my cooling issues. Breaking drive train parts is all up to your right foot, but hard to stay out of it with that much engine.
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check out your local pic-a-part auto supply.. a lot of times you can get them reasonable there.. we have one in Las Vegas where motors are fair priced.. and like I say, watch craigslist for all the nearby towns (as far as you'd drive).. never know when one will show up on there.. stay under the $500 mark, you may have to have heads done at worse case, or new oil pump, or something lightweight.. mine was in perfect condition and I picked It up out of Denver for $250..
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Unread 04-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #10
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For $1500 you can probably find a rotted out javelin/wagoneer with a running 401. I certainly wouldn't buy that 401. I live nearby and a few times a year, a 401 comes up for under $500 on CL.

Is this the one you're looking at? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMC-401-COMP...c9a24f&vxp=mtr
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I've already picked the local jeep junk yard clean. They don't have any amc v8's. I check Craigslist in a regular basis. If this guy would come doe about $1000 I'd be interested...
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Unread 04-07-2013, 02:14 PM   #12
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For $1500 you can probably find a rotted out javelin/wagoneer with a running 401. I certainly wouldn't buy that 401. I live nearby and a few times a year, a 401 comes up for under $500 on CL.

Is this the one you're looking at? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMC-401-COMP...c9a24f&vxp=mtr
That's the one.
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That guy thinks he has something is my guess. "Turns over, ran when pulled" means nothing. Judging by the dust on that thing, the last time it ran was a LONG time ago. And looking at the picture of the heads, the rocker studs/locks don't match.....something was changed/scabbed together with mismatched parts for a reason.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 03:57 PM   #14
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That guy thinks he has something is my guess. "Turns over, ran when pulled" means nothing. Judging by the dust on that thing, the last time it ran was a LONG time ago. And looking at the picture of the heads, the rocker studs/locks don't match.....something was changed/scabbed together with mismatched parts for a reason.
Well the dust doesn't really say much, it sounds as though the seller has an automotive shop, it could be he paints cars too for cash and that creates a crap ton of dust. The price is the only problem for me.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 06:49 PM   #15
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Sometimes you just got to be patient. I waited MANY years (like 8) looking for one and YES they were all 1000 bucks. NO WAY!
So I bought this 79 Cherokee Chief JUST for the 401.



If it was in mint condition, I would have left it complete and original, but it wasn't by any means. I did start it and hear/see it run. No smoke or knocks...YES! Out it came.



The ever so hard to see "401" hidden behind the motor mount.



Now here's the magic, Bought a good used 304 for 100 bucks, installed in the truck, and resold the truck for 300 more than what I paid for it......for those doing the math, that's a free 401 and 200 bucks in the pocket. The truck is still running strong (well weak actually) as a daily driver for the guy. He loves it, but wants a 360.

Yes I know there are way better engines out there. I believe in Jeep/AMC engines in Jeeps and like the rarity of the 401.
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