post #91 of Old 04-05-2008, 11:51 AM
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angleometer question

Does the jeep have to be set perfectly level side to side and front to back for this tool to work?

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post #92 of Old 04-05-2008, 12:01 PM
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Does the jeep have to be set perfectly level side to side and front to back for this tool to work?
Absolutly, otherwise you've got no way to get an acurate reading in order to make adjustments.
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post #93 of Old 04-06-2008, 04:59 PM
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Shimming axles

Ive already done the soa swap. Where do I place the shims to correct the angle?
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post #94 of Old 04-08-2008, 09:20 AM
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I still can't believe that with a 4+ lift my caster is correct. Is it possible that I don't need any correction? Or did I measure the degree wrong?

PS: Tie rod flip was awesome for steering geometry.

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post #95 of Old 04-08-2008, 10:29 AM
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Does the jeep have to be set perfectly level side to side and front to back for this tool to work?
The surface that the Jeep is sitting on should be as level as possible but the Jeep should be in it's normal attitude. For example, if it 's suspension causes the back end to sit a bit high, that's the way it should be when you make your caster measurments since that would affect caster.
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post #96 of Old 04-18-2008, 03:40 PM
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Going with OME high steer. Hope it works. We'll see. My caster angle is good.

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post #97 of Old 04-19-2008, 03:40 PM
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get a aftermarket steering box
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post #98 of Old 04-20-2008, 07:32 PM
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I think I will do that when I do the high steer. Thanks

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post #99 of Old 04-21-2008, 01:21 PM
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I need help. My CJ7 does not wander at all, rather I move the wheel an inch an it is very responsive. It is very, very tight. Doesn't go anywere, it is just so tight, any movement other than straight makes it go crazy. Any ideas as to why? I think it might be the shaft. I replaced the box and have the flip ready to go next month, but I would still your guys' opinions.

I might add, the column is from a 74 cherokee and the shaft has been modified to fit (cut and welded nicely). It is very tight steering. Almost too responsive!!!!!!


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post #100 of Old 04-29-2008, 01:10 PM
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Just an F.Y.I.
I had alot of serious play and bump steer going on with my Cj and just had a buddy rebuild the factory steering box and it is like night and day. If it is not a castor issue and your steering is tight from the wheel down to the box than chances are if you have a redicuous amount of play it just needs a steering box rebuild. I have had this done on 2 cj's now and solved the issue both times. If it is a daily driver don't waste the extra money on the high dollar steering boxes when you can have the stock box rebuilt for $50 or less. If you are climbing mountains than I'd buy the high dollar stuff otherwise stock is fine in my opinion.
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A well-written and informative article! Thanks to the original poster for providing the writeup. Information like this makes JF an excellent resource.
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post #102 of Old 05-07-2008, 03:35 PM
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New shocks helped a whole lot with my wandering issues.

1. New shackles and stabilizer: helped
2. New steering shaft: helped a lot
3. Tie Rod Flip: helped with turning radius.
3. New shocks: icing on the cake.

'85 CJ7, 258 4.2 Howell TBI, NP435, twin sticked Dana300, 4.56 Yukon chromoly: Rear20-extra thick tubes, shaved,trussed,discbrakes,ARB: Front30- flipped tierod,Detroit EZ locker, warn hubs: 3.5" BDS YJ springs and booster, 35" Trxus M/T's, rhino'd, full roll cage, borgenson steering shaft, big daddy steering box bracket...Unknown OIL Leak(working on it...)
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post #103 of Old 05-12-2008, 05:25 PM
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Just wanted tp ost my results from the CJ wandering issue. I have a 3" BDS and SSR 31x11:50x15 on my 81. It drove fairly well after the lift. But seemed to be worse after I had it aligned. I have no idea why but the caster was measured at 4.5 so after reading the sticky here I ordered a set of 4* steel shims. This now has my caster up to 6.5 on the left and 6.1 on the right. Toe was adjusted and within spec range.

The CJ drove straight down the road and the steering is nice and tight very nice improvement. The steering does not spin very quickly after a turn but I bet the big rubber down on the road might have something to do with that.

Thanks everyone it was a quick and easy fix that made the driving a whole lot easier.

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post #104 of Old 05-12-2008, 07:55 PM
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So just to be clear...you had the correct amount of castor at the 4.5 degrees and then you added shims to gain more which put you at the 6.5 and that made an improvement? I am confused now.

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post #105 of Old 05-13-2008, 07:55 AM
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The caster specs for my Jeep was 5-7* of caster. Previous threads stated that the higher the caster the less wandering ect. that you will get so I had the 4* shims installed that brought the the caster up 6.5* the high end but still within the limits set.

Like I said drives like my 3 year old truck. If I ever install another lift I would have these on hand right from the start.

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