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Unread 03-14-2008, 12:18 PM   #76
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ahh... that explains it. thanks fatman. i guess i'll have to look elsewhere for the cause of my wandering, but there's one thing i can cross off the list. tie rod ends and spring bushings are next.

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Unread 03-20-2008, 03:51 PM   #77
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Hi everybody, new guy here. Just jumped headfirst with purchase of 95 Wrangler and have started going over it bit by bit to get everything in good working order. The steering has a little play in it and it's a white knuckler over 45 mph so steering seemed like a pretty good place to start after the new radiator.

I found some looseness at the lower pittman arm attach point and figured my problem was going to be easy. I stumbled onto this thread while reading about it and after further review I think I need to correct my shims.

This jeep came with a 4" lift "installed by a professional" so the previous owner said. I was looking at it after I read thru here and I have no shims in front but shims in back. I'm thinking I need to switch the shims to the front after reading here.

I'm a little confused though, earlier in this thread someone says to put shims with fat end towards the front. there's a picture in reply #59 that says it's driver side picture which would make fat end of shim to rear?
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Unread 03-20-2008, 04:20 PM   #78
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Leave the shims n the back. They were put there to cure drive shaft vibrations. Before doing anything to your front end other than simple repairs, you may want to take it to an alignment shop to get a better idea of what needs to be done.
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Unread 03-22-2008, 04:48 PM   #79
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i just put a AGR steering box on my 80 cj and it solved everything, do the box. it's worth it
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Unread 03-23-2008, 07:36 PM   #80
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I'm a little confused though, earlier in this thread someone says to put shims with fat end towards the front. there's a picture in reply #59 that says it's driver side picture which would make fat end of shim to rear?
It is a picture of the front drivers side looking from under the jeep so fat end is facing front.
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Unread 03-23-2008, 08:44 PM   #81
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i just put a AGR steering box on my 80 cj and it solved everything, do the box. it's worth it
how much was it wondering.... mine is only in the turning it seems to be goofy when you correct to go straight.... what was your doing..... it goes straight down the road though.....
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Unread 03-23-2008, 09:11 PM   #82
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It is a picture of the front drivers side looking from under the jeep so fat end is facing front.
The right side of the picture is the front of the Jeep so the thick end of the shim is facing front which increases caster angle.
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Unread 03-24-2008, 06:07 PM   #83
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The right side of the picture is the front of the Jeep so the thick end of the shim is facing front which increases caster angle.
Thanks...better answer than the way I worded it. I just wanted to make sure he knew it was correct as pictured.
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Unread 03-24-2008, 07:54 PM   #84
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Thanks...better answer than the way I worded it. I just wanted to make sure he knew it was correct as pictured.
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I imagine your explanation was pretty plain but I'm just a picky old bastard
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Unread 03-25-2008, 05:23 AM   #85
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Had my shaft replaced yesterday, and what a difference. No more wandering. The upper bearings were shot, and the lower bushings were non-existent. It was almost 25 years old.
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Unread 03-25-2008, 02:29 PM   #86
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300cj7 it was wondering just like yours, do the box, well worth it
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Unread 03-25-2008, 04:56 PM   #87
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300cj7 it was wondering just like yours, do the box, well worth it
you got a website... how much was it???
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Unread 03-25-2008, 07:46 PM   #88
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you got a website... how much was it???
right now 4wd.com is offering free shipping on AGR boxes. it was about $300 i think or a little more, i didn't install the pump they recommend, you don't need it, use orriginal one. also it's very easy to do if you are good with tools. best swap i did so far, so much mre control. some people will say not to go AGR but i like mine and have no problems. you might want to get a brace for the box too for like $50, you can even sell your old steering box on ebay for $70 like i did to get some money back. pm me with any other questions
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Unread 03-26-2008, 05:13 PM   #89
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sweet.... thanks man.....
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Unread 03-29-2008, 07:56 AM   #90
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I believe I'm going to try this to help my steering. Just to confirm what I've read about this and shackle lifts:

First pic is 2 degree pos castor angle (taken from the bottom for picture, but also go the same at the top and on passenger side)



Second pic is the 3 1/2" measurement between bolts on the shackle. 3" is stock, so I feel ok about not having to swap shackle at this time (there is a second set of holes on the shackle at 5")



So I'm concluding I need 2 degree shims. Correct?
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