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post #331 of 337 Old 10-12-2013, 08:04 AM
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tks for the info. it pays to sirf the older pgs of cj5 form. just got my 75 cj5 . the ol girl has the wandering issue. has a lift kit, 10-1/2 x 32" have not measured the lift yet. will use the angle finder to see where its @. tks for your knowledge it helps us all. ps the springs are under the axle.

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post #332 of 337 Old 02-25-2014, 10:15 AM
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I read through most of the pages and I don't believe I saw this mentioned anywhere? I have the "wondering steering" issue. When driving I can pretty much keep a straight line but after taking a turn the wheels don't really center themselves. I have an 86 CJ7 with a 4'' lift with and 33.5 BF Goodrich all-terrain tires. It also has factory power steering that I installed (used) since my jeep originally came without power steering. Everything appears in order with steering components. Nothing broken or loose. There is a little play in factory steering shaft at the upper joint but this is expected after 25+ years and will be corrected with new steering shaft. My questions is should I consider shimming an already offset front leaf? I called lift kit manufacture (Tuff Country EZ-Ride 4") about possible caster angle issues and I was told that the front end leafs were manufactured "offset" for proper caster angle. Do these offset leafs not always correct caster angle 100% and still require a 2 degree shim at least? Thanks guys. BTW, I live in Puerto Rico where getting a proper diagnostic is sometimes difficult and is why I have not gone to a tire shop for caster angle information. I'm pretty handy with tools but not 100% comfortable with this angle tool as I've seen it used several different ways in this thread and don't want to get a bad reading. Thanks again.

Update: I put an angle meter on the top bolt of the upper ball joint and got a reading of 5 degrees of positive caster. From what I've read, it should be about 4 degrees with a 4" lift? So I'm good?

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post #333 of 337 Old 12-18-2014, 08:36 AM
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Thanks for the great info. I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler with a 4" lift. how do i go about fixing the issue on my jeep?

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post #334 of 337 Old 12-18-2014, 08:54 PM
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post #335 of 337 Old 12-21-2014, 01:42 PM
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I read through most of the pages and I don't believe I saw this mentioned anywhere? I have the "wondering steering" issue. When driving I can pretty much keep a straight line but after taking a turn the wheels don't really center themselves. I have an 86 CJ7 with a 4'' lift with and 33.5 BF Goodrich all-terrain tires. It also has factory power steering that I installed (used) since my jeep originally came without power steering. Everything appears in order with steering components. Nothing broken or loose. There is a little play in factory steering shaft at the upper joint but this is expected after 25+ years and will be corrected with new steering shaft. My questions is should I consider shimming an already offset front leaf? I called lift kit manufacture (Tuff Country EZ-Ride 4") about possible caster angle issues and I was told that the front end leafs were manufactured "offset" for proper caster angle. Do these offset leafs not always correct caster angle 100% and still require a 2 degree shim at least? Thanks guys. BTW, I live in Puerto Rico where getting a proper diagnostic is sometimes difficult and is why I have not gone to a tire shop for caster angle information. I'm pretty handy with tools but not 100% comfortable with this angle tool as I've seen it used several different ways in this thread and don't want to get a bad reading. Thanks again.

Update: I put an angle meter on the top bolt of the upper ball joint and got a reading of 5 degrees of positive caster. From what I've read, it should be about 4 degrees with a 4" lift? So I'm good?
From l what I have followed and read, you should take 2 readings. One at the bottom on the spring and then at the top of the ball joint.

then compare the 2 and see if there is 4 degree difference.

As stated somewhere in the post you must be on level ground. If you not then the 1 reading from the top may not be true.

Example:

reading a bottom of spring -1
reading at top of ball joint +4
true caster is +3

If it breaks once, shame on it. If it breaks again, shame on me.
Fix it right or better the first time.
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post #336 of 337 Old 12-21-2014, 02:08 PM
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I downloaded the "Angle Meter" app on my iPhone. It's free and seems to work pretty good. Of course, my Jeep is 3,000 miles away right now so I can't check my caster. It's one of the first things I'll do when I get home though. My Jeep has had the wanders for over 30 years. I'll probably use a real angle finder before doing any mods though.
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post #337 of 337 Old 12-21-2014, 03:17 PM
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FYI, I found that measuring caster at home is only accurate to +/- 2 degrees, due to casting imperfections.

It's best to take it to an alignment shop and get a true reading.

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