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Unread 09-22-2003, 04:43 AM   #1
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Whats the difference between a CJ5 and CJ7?

What is the difference between the CJ5 and 7?

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Unread 09-23-2003, 06:48 PM   #2
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Within any given year, the only real difference is 10" of wheelbase.

Other than that no CJ5 ever had an automatic transmission (optional on CJ7) and no CJ5 ever had wide track axles (any '82-86 CJ7 had them).
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Unread 09-24-2003, 04:48 AM   #3
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I don't know for sure and I don't want to argue but what you are saying is the wheel base on a CJ-5 is 83 inches, based on a 93 inch WB of a CJ-7.

I was under the impression that the WB did increase and it was in the engine compartment area.

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Unread 09-24-2003, 05:57 PM   #4
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I don't know for sure and I don't want to argue but what you are saying is the wheel base on a CJ-5 is 83 inches, based on a 93 inch WB of a CJ-7.

I was under the impression that the WB did increase and it was in the engine compartment area.

LOL,
Not at all...Actually, the primary difference(visual also) is the door opening...The CJ5 looks like a carnival ride, the 7 has a real(sorta) door opening... Flame war begins!
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Unread 09-24-2003, 06:56 PM   #5
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I was under the impression that the WB did increase and it was in the engine compartment area.

LOL,
Yes, In 1972 the CJ-5 and CJ-6 had the front clips/frames lengthened by 3 inches to make use of the longer AMC 6 and 8 cyl engines.
The wheelbases went from 81 inches (CJ5) and 101 inches (CJ6), to 84 and 104. So the CJ-5s from then on were 84 (83.5) inches...1972 to 1983. The CJ-7 has been 94 inches the whole time (76 to 86).
Other differences are the tailgates/lack of, legroom, rear cargo space, turning radius, and so on......plus what CSP added about axles.
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Unread 09-24-2003, 10:12 PM   #6
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only in a jeep cj has it correct.

The length increase in the engine compartment area was prior to the existence of the CJ7.
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Unread 09-25-2003, 04:29 AM   #7
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Carnival Ride???

Carnival ride???

How 'bout a 5 looks like a Jeep... as in any of the original Overland Willys, GPW, MB, CJ2, CJ3, etc. And it is BECAUSE of the lines at the door.

A CJ7 door opening is the first of many "lets make it more like a car because it will sell to more women" modifications that the 7 and later Wranglers had many of, like a dash, carpet inside, plastic panels on the inside of doors, all of which you will have to pull out and throw away if the Jeep you buy has them

oh yeah, doors, what are they for on a Jeep anyway? Once I stopped carrying mine around in the back I stopped missing the extra 10" of storage.

Not that I have a preference...

But really Hatch, the extra 10 inches probably helps a lot if you are going to modify much, I already have a very short rear drive shaft with just over 5 inches of lift and a new tranny thats only 2.8 inches longer.


But OK, happy PCB?
you got the response you were looking for,
Nice 7 by the way.
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Unread 09-25-2003, 05:47 PM   #8
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Amen to that, they weren't made to be pretty!
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Unread 09-25-2003, 08:24 PM   #9
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Here I got one..

The cj7 always goes for more $$ than a cj5. I guess the extra few inches is something people want.

I guess if the distance between the front and rear wheels were greater in a cj7 to cj5 that might be good for off roading.

I have a 81 cj5 and it is prefect.

I know one thing I saw a new model hummer go off roading with us this weekend. To long and wide. The bummpers keep catching ground on big hills. The side of the vehicle were destoyed due to trails were to thin for him to get around.

I am glad I put diamond plating on the side off my jeep.

Really it does not matter what kind of jeep you get. Just get a jeep and have fun.

That is what it is all about.

A jeep sure is handing when you are in the middle of no-where and you need to go. Just hop over the curb and drive a little ways and you can go in private. GROSS - HAHA..
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Unread 03-29-2010, 12:37 AM   #10
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can someone post some side by side pics of a cj5 and a cj7?
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Unread 03-29-2010, 03:15 AM   #11
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Well, there are the pics in SKT's '5 hardtop thread, look at the door shape. Then look at any '7, and the 7 is more squared. I do like the Carny ride description, that curve reminds you of the old rollercoaster cars..
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Unread 03-29-2010, 05:00 AM   #12
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CJ-7's probably newer. More room for tranny swaps. More room behind seat and between driver and steering wheel, so it's easier to get in and out of. Easier to find parts for, especially a hard top. Also, a TJ tub can be swapped to a CJ-7 (a good use for a TJ).

CJ-5 turns tighter, smaller so easier to manuever on trail. And, looks better (IMO).

Also, if the CJ5 is pre-1976 (like mine) it does not have a boxed frame and is narrower, and harder to find parts for. But it will not have the garbage AMC 20 rear end, either.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 06:12 AM   #13
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All the above technical information is more or less correct. I'll share a few opinions. I've off-roaded in a 5 for the past 13 years. The advantage to it is that it will fit through stuff that no other Jeep, except the early Jeeps, will. It has great approach, departure, and break-over angles. It's really light, so any engine will suit it fine (and V-8 power is scary). The big downside to the 5 is hill/rock climbing (or descending). That's where your lack of wheelbase really comes into play. When climbing something that 7s are comfortable on, and that Scramblers or pick ups walk up, you're sweating bullets and hoping not to do an end-o'er.

Regarding the lack of boxed frame: I've actually read that this is an advantage, b/c the Jeep is designed to have some frame flex. I don't know whether that's accurate or not, but I'll repeat it for what it's worth.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 06:23 AM   #14
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The top rail is different shaped than that of a 7. I would much rather have a boxed frame because the open c channel frame I have is as flismy as a wet noodle. I'll be straightening, boxing, and plating it soon so I think it will be strong enough after that.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 08:22 AM   #15
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Don't forget the way a 7 rides, if that is a consern, I have a stock 5 with 22k and my friend up street has a stock 7 with 43k and the ride between the two is like day and night, his 7 is like riding in a Caddy compared to my 5.
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