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Unread 05-14-2002, 06:09 PM   #1
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what should be my first upgrade?

as you prolly can tell from my sig I have an 83 CJ7... just bought the thing a little while ago, it's my first non-fuel injected vehicle so I'm looking forward to doing mods. All my experence comes from tuning late model VW engines and they are more then a PITA to work on with OBD and stuff.

So what should be the first thing to make this thing more fun to drive? already has a dual exhaust, I don't know if it came like that from the factory but it sounds good! I only have three tires that match and no brakes, but thats all thats left to fix (prolly gonna do that this weekend) then it's streetable.

Also what are the first things I should start to look for in terms of wear? It's got some rust on the body and undercaraige but there's diamond plate welded around most of it, should I be worried?

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Unread 05-14-2002, 06:23 PM   #2
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Tow hooks.
Anyway, I'll probably get slaughtered for this, but I would really like to hear about your VW and what you have done to it. I too like VWs. Like to hear about it.
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Unread 05-14-2002, 09:36 PM   #3
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I would check frame for weakness fist and repair if necessary
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Unread 05-14-2002, 10:42 PM   #4
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heh...its funny to hear I'm not the only VW guy around here. I'm on VWVortex and have 2 VWs but they are way too much to keep up with so I'm selling one of them to get the jeep going.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 12:36 AM   #5
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i have a VW too!!
what kind do you guys have
i have a corrado G60
but i wrecked it
i am going to fab a 1 seat sand rail and put the engine in the rear

Jeeps and VWs kick ***
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Unread 05-15-2002, 05:24 AM   #6
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SWEET! Two VW guys or was that 3? I don't know, but thats sweet. Man I love Corrados. I'd like to hear about all you guys' VWs. Project CJ7, what two do you have?
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Unread 05-15-2002, 05:30 AM   #7
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nice to see some VW love coming from the jeep crowd!
My current dub is a GTi VR6 with schrick 268 cams, VGi intake manifold, GIAC chip, autotech SS exhaust, dieselgeek SS. THe tranny has a peloquin diff to keep from exploding at the track. Along with 6lb flywheel, 3.67 R&P and 6 puck clutch. the suspension is setup with an H&R cup kit on all four courners and front strut tie bar. the only other thing I'm gonna do is put a nice set of lightweight Recaros in there and I'm done. I have a set of UR pulleys I need to install sometime too. If anyone is from the area I goto atco mostly on Friday for racing... I'm trying to hit the 13's with my current setup. I'm also on vortex, my screen name is SchrickedVR6.

If you guys have any VW ?s let me know and I do my best to answer them... But I need some jeep advise in return
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Unread 05-15-2002, 05:50 AM   #8
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Drool, drool, drool ,drool. Your car is swwweeeet. Are you running coil-overs? What do you mean be cup kit? Both of my bros. have VWs. One has a 1997 Jetta GT with a Neuspeed
P-Flo and P-Chip and a Brospeed muffler. The other just got his new one(he used to own the Jetta and sold it to my other brother)just a little over a week ago and is lovin it. Its a 2001 Golf GTI 1.8T. It's all stock right now, but man that thing screams even with nothin done to it. Gotta love that turbo whine. Right now he's debating over three chips: The Neuspeed one, APR, and the Garrett one. I'm not sure which one he will get, but his general plans are to get a chip, intake, exaust, and coil overs. He was originally thinking about getting a turbo upgrade until he found that some of the chips he's considering will take his lbs. ft of torque straight from 155 to 245. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Anyway, I'd love to keep talkin about VWs with you guys as I'd like to get a VR6 Corrado eventually. We will have to do it in secret however or the others might find out and kill us.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 07:15 AM   #9
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the cupkit is basically one stage in the H&R coilover suspension. It's not adjustable like the CO are but if you were to say adjust your H&R CO's to the optimum setting for the street handling and make them into a non-adjustable strut/spring combo it would be the H&R cup kit.

Yeah those 1.8t's are quick. the new '02 have 180HP... 30 more then the previous model. And yeah with a chip you will see prolly well over 200 ft-lbs of TQ, I would steer away from Neuspeed, either go with APR or GIAC. They are pretty much taking over the VW drag racing sceen. Unless I strap on a turbo or start spraying my VR6 isn't going to be able to compete!

I still love my Vdub cause its a blast to drive but I am growing tired, since I've done almost all there is to do on the motor car. All I have left is work on my driving skills to brake the 13.99 barrier. Thats why I am looking forward to hooking up the jeep. I look at it like this, its the best of both worlds... a German engineered sports car and a rugged amercian built 4x4!

Just don't let the rest of the guys on this site know about our VW addiction or we just might get or cars run over by some off road monsters... that is if they can catch us
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Unread 05-15-2002, 07:37 AM   #10
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Nope.....I dont have a VW (I can appreciate them though....got their cousin the Porsche)

Now with your Jeep..... After you have your brake situation taken care of you will want to start checking out that body. Was the Diamond plate just welded over rust? If so the body will just continue to rust. They you will have to decide whether to repair rust spots or just get a new metal/fiberglass/Kevlar body. Chaeck around the seat belt mounts....they might not be too secure!

Then...suspension. First I would say upgrade the shackles....I have always like Conn Ferr. Very strong and you can get an inch or so lift out of them if you want too. Then do you want to upgrade the suspension as in a lift? If so decide now how far you want to go....makes no sense to lift 2 1/2 only to decide you want more room for suspension travel in a year from now....

I would suggest you look at a lot of the other Jeeps on here to get ideas.... figure out what you want to do before you start spending money. Much easier when you have the project planned out.....

Good luck,

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Unread 05-15-2002, 08:59 AM   #11
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Hank wants to see Tow Hooks on your VW
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Unread 05-15-2002, 09:09 AM   #12
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Billy, thanks for the response... what kind of Porsche do you have?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now with your Jeep..... After you have your brake situation taken care of you will want to start checking out that body. Was the Diamond plate just welded over rust? If so the body will just continue to rust. They you will have to decide whether to repair rust spots or just get a new metal/fiberglass/Kevlar body. Chaeck around the seat belt mounts....they might not be too secure!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It looks like the diamond plate was welded over rust . How much does a body (are they called tubs) cost? I want to rip all the carpet out and attempt to clean up the floor pan. After that I was going to put a good coat of a rust protectant/water resistant sealer and get new gromets for the drain holes. any suggestions for a good over the counter sealer?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Then...suspension. First I would say upgrade the shackles....I have always like Conn Ferr. Very strong and you can get an inch or so lift out of them if you want too. Then do you want to upgrade the suspension as in a lift? If so decide now how far you want to go....makes no sense to lift 2 1/2 only to decide you want more room for suspension travel in a year from now....
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I was thinking the same thing, I'm sure all the bushings need to be replaced and while I'm at it I guess the shackles too. Does anyone sell like a complete kit will HD poly busings for our vehicles? As far as lifting goes I'm going to have to think about that one for a bit till I decide on my final goal for the jeep will be.

Thanks agian for the help.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 09:54 AM   #13
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Man marc, 14.2 is dang fast for a all motor VW. I'd love to see 13s. That'd be sweet. What are your specific reasons against Neuspeed. I mean I'm not saying you're wrong as I have heard both way arguments for and against them and know that there are definitely more tuners out there than just them. Any more thoughs on the car would be cool. Yeah, those new 1.8Ts are sweet too, but that wasn't quite in his budget. He got the sweet stock 17 inch rims too so a rim/tire swap won't be needed. He was actually considering and planning on a '98 VR6, but opted for an easier find that would probably yield less miles if you can find one. Talk to you later.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 09:56 AM   #14
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Honestly 4wheeler, I think my bros. 1.8T has a hook on the back.
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Unread 05-15-2002, 10:00 AM   #15
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I have a 2001 Jetta VR6 and a 86 Scirocco 16v that I am currently selling.
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