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post #16 of 24 Old 04-04-2013, 05:39 PM
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Reminds me of a funny story:

"I've got my great-granddaddy's axe in my tool shed. I've changed the handle 3 times and the head twice, but its still my great-granddaddy's axe."

I'd personally avoid being too philosophical about it. Most of us have replaced lots of stuff on our jeeps out of necessity. I don't regret replacing any original components that allow me to keep it in good shape, drive-able and beneficial to me. Replace what needs to be replaced to make it a solid Jeep and you won't regret it.


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post #17 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 10:55 AM
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But then he might end up with a solid Wrangler not a solid Jeep. Yes they are both a "Jeep brand" but then so is a Liberty or a Honcho. So what is his end goal, to have a Jeep or just a Jeep brand vehicle. That's what he should be deciding. To some it doesn't matter as long as it's a 4wd vehicle.

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post #18 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 01:25 PM
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I would be that 90% of the people who clamor about any YJ not being a true Jeep wouldn't know the difference if he did have a YJ frame and tub.
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post #19 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 04:50 PM
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There might be some CJ2 or CJ3 owners who would tell you a CJ5 or a CJ7 isn't a real Jeep. Stuff changes, designs evolve. They're all Jeeps: Kaiser, Willys, AMC and yes, even Chrysler!

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post #20 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 07:10 PM
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i vote for cj frame and yj tub...my jeep came from m grandpa too. there isnt much left of what he had on it but the frame will stay original!

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post #21 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 08:46 PM
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This has always bugged me, There were more changes to the CJ5 from 1955-1983 than there were from the CJ7 to the YJ.

Now as far as the Jeep in Question goes, I say Keep the original CJ frame. and use the YJ tub.
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post #22 of 24 Old 04-07-2013, 06:56 PM
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This has always bugged me, There were more changes to the CJ5 from 1955-1983 than there were from the CJ7 to the YJ.

Now as far as the Jeep in Question goes, I say Keep the original CJ frame. and use the YJ tub.
That's over just shy of 30 years. That's called evolution. The yj had many changes in just it's first year. Why, because it was a totally new vehicle.
It's pretty simple. If a yj was a Jeep, why did they call it a wrangler instead of a Jeep? If AMC didn't end production of the Jeep, then why the announcement in nov 85 by the vp of products that they did?

Ivehad4 -Your confusing the Jeep company with the Jeep vehicle. Chrysler never made the Jeep, they made the Wrangler. All Jeep's are either CJ's or MB's for the military version.

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post #23 of 24 Old 04-07-2013, 07:25 PM
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No confusion here. There has never been a Jeep company. My TJ says JEEP on both sides. Yes the Jeep brand changed hands in 1987 but it also changed hands a few times prior to that and they continued to make Jeeps.

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post #24 of 24 Old 04-08-2013, 08:10 AM
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So if I put a Jeep decal on my Dodge, that makes it a Jeep? That would also make a Compass or a Patriot a Jeep as well, using that logic. You've never heard of the Jeep Corporation, AMC Jeep, or Chrysler Jeep? The Jeep brand didn't exist till about 1970ish, the trademark around 1950ish. Prior to that the name wasn't part of the brand/ownership. However the Jeep existed. It wasn't a company or brand, it was a particular vehicle who's brand was Willy's or Kaiser, who's model name was Jeep, and who's model number was CJ for the non-military use version.
The Jeep is a specific vehicle, not a company or brand, which today's generation likes to think. It didn't have another model name like wrangler, patriot, honcho, wagoneer, etc. because IT WAS the Jeep. The vehicle eventually spawned a company. A company didn't spawn the Jeep. A company did spawn the wrangler and it was because they ended production of THE JEEP. The first Wrangler wasn't built in 1941. However, the first Jeep was.


"The quarter-ton Jeep earned a worldwide reputation for ruggedness and versatility in wartime. That tradition has continued for more than four decades that the CJ has been sold to the public. Completion of the CJ production will signal an end of a very important era in Jeep history." -Joseph Cappy AMC vice president of operations

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My frame off Re-Build: (the 4 year saga....)
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