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Unread 01-31-2013, 05:23 PM   #11356
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Welp, another excuse to work on the cj then! Haha

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Unread 01-31-2013, 05:25 PM   #11357
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X2 on that.
Here is a good read:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...rness_install/

After I did my shoulder harness wrong, I went back and cut it out before painting and did it right or at least as close to right as I could get it. It also added some triangulation but at the cost of leg room. My reason for doing this was not my injury but to my passengers (family). If I cannot use my feet to hold or press the brake even in a mild "spinal compression" incident, others will be injured. Note how much of the article is devoted to shoulder harness location. That was free advice, no charge, no matter how much it hurts.



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Unread 01-31-2013, 05:29 PM   #11358
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Sterted on the body mounts today. They were in various states of boogered up, patched, wrong size holes, etc.. I figured it would be easier to whack them off and start from scratch.
It was surprising to find out just how easy the factory mounts are to get off. A few swipes with a cutting wheel across the welds, and a smack with a hammer, and the first one flew across the garage.
I made my own out of 3x3 1/8" wall square tubing. Couldn't see paying $100 for some bent pieces of steel.


Cut out the mounts.


Welded them on.




One side down, one to go. They should be a buttload stronger than the factory mounts were.
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Unread 01-31-2013, 05:55 PM   #11359
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So according to that article, if I add a bar behind my seat, above shoulder length, then go to the floor, thats ok? So it pulls down on the bar instead of me correct?
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Unread 01-31-2013, 06:35 PM   #11360
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So according to that article, if I add a bar behind my seat, above shoulder length, then go to the floor, thats ok? So it pulls down on the bar instead of me correct?
I don't think so, for one the harness is not supposed to be attached to sheetmetal like the floor. Second, in a situation were the body/tub separates from the cage your body/structure will be in between and subject to that force.

If you add the bar, drill 3/4" holes at the mount locations on the new bar and weld in some seat belt bungs.
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Unread 01-31-2013, 06:47 PM   #11361
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That makes sense, but im not in sheet metal on the floor, im in rear seat mounts. I just saw in the write up where you could make a cross bar an drop to the floor. My harnesses are so long I dont kno what id do with the excess, cut it I assume
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Unread 01-31-2013, 06:51 PM   #11362
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And im really trying to learn here, not ask a lot of crappy questions, ha sorry!
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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:04 PM   #11363
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And im really trying to learn here, not ask a lot of crappy questions, ha sorry!
You're not coming off in a bad way what so ever. Many can learn from this. Be thankful you are learning this the easy way and not the hard way.

These local tough truck tracks at fairs make you sign a waiver but don't make safety a concern and it's a shame to watch these young men jump a truck with no safety cage or harness and learn at lesson that sticks with them for the rest of their lives.
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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:11 PM   #11364
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x2 on that.
x3 isnt it amazing how much info there is on this subject? You could read all day and still mess something up @_@
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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:20 PM   #11365
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x3 isnt it amazing how much info there is on this subject? You could read all day and still mess something up @_@
Yes tell me about it, thats what im starting to see, I have no intention of jumping or hitting a mudhole sideways at 50mph, but as we all know, any real wheeling adds the risk of a rollover, even if a simple layover, I wanna live to rebuild!
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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:27 PM   #11366
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And im really trying to learn here, not ask a lot of crappy questions, ha sorry!
Your on dude! No worries, This is the free exchange of knowledge and information the way it should be. No attitudes to hush us up and make us feel bad.




Here is a link from the cage thread that showed how 0 MPH can turn real quick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACVL1aKK6k

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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:57 PM   #11367
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Unread 01-31-2013, 07:59 PM   #11368
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Here is a link from the cage thread that showed how 0 MPH can turn real quick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACVL1aKK6k

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Unread 01-31-2013, 08:03 PM   #11369
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I gave mine a well deserved bath.....so I can go get it dirty again
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Unread 01-31-2013, 09:19 PM   #11370
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Your on dude! No worries, This is the free exchange of knowledge and information the way it should be. No attitudes to hush us up and make us feel bad.



Here is a link from the cage thread that showed how 0 MPH can turn real quick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACVL1aKK6k

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That's why I just finished strengthening up my roll cage and I'm about to add that bar tomorrow and go buy those harnesses with my next check. All I have right now is lap belts. No shoulder belts at all. I was going to get the ones that mount to tabs and weld in some tabs. Either that or the ones that wrap around the bar. Idk which ones yet
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