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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:26 PM   #1
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Welder brands which one for me?

So after getting a 77 cj5 i need to do some fabrication and such. And rather than paying shops to do work I'd rather learn how to do things for myself. Any welders and pipe benders/accessories you all would recommend for garage work?

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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:28 PM   #2
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I love my miller matic 140..its 110v and its older but works awesome...u have access to 220v??? the only thing i wish was that mine was 220v so i could run .35 wire...
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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:30 PM   #3
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Mine is a Lincoln and 220V....I use cO2/Argon blend gas. Great results from frame work to sheetmetal patches.

Get a good set of 1/2" drive sockets/ratchets for the larger stuff.
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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:34 PM   #4
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I've had a miller matic 175 about 3 years. It's a 220v mig. I use straight CO2 since I need to weld the thickest steel I can with it. So far I have been able to weld everything I needed to including welding cast steel pieces on axle knuckles and housings.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 05:01 AM   #5
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Can't go wrong with a miller. Good welders and priced some where in the middle of the scale. Personally i would stay away from lincolns. I'm saving up for an ESAB welder though.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 06:55 AM   #6
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Might want to browse around in our Fabrication Forum.. lots of threads about welders/welding.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:13 AM   #7
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I love my Northern Tools welder: Northern Industrial MIG Welder — 115 Volt, 22-135 Amp, Model# MIG 135 | Wirefeed Welders | Northern Tool + Equipment

For the price I just couldn't justify a Miller or Hobart for my hobby/garage work. Especially if you're just starting out and want to learn. Buy the Northern Tools welder and save enough money for metal and other tools.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:22 AM   #8
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I think this is a new line of welders that Eatwood sells. I don't Know much about them but I love there other products. With there warranty and return policy they sound good.

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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:40 AM   #9
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I am not a brand snob so a 230V Miller, Lincoln or Hobart.

I currently use a Lincoln SP-175T (Home Depot) and love it, it replaced a Millermatic 140 (gift) because it tripped the breaker continuously in the garage and I did not want to add new service. I made a 10ga extension cord and ran it to the dryer in the house and the Lincoln worked great. In my new house I ran new service to the garage but I still use the extension cord when I am out in the driveway.

If I were to replace the Lincoln now, I would probably get the Hobart 210.

I also have a Hobart AC/DC that I use at times.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:43 AM   #10
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Love my millermatic 180 autoset.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:46 AM   #11
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I have a little Lincoln 110V for sheet metal and small jobs. It is a good little cheap welder you can pick up at Lowe's or Home Depot. Then I have a Miller 180 230V for larger jobs. I like the Miller because you can upgrade it to do aluminum for $200. All you have to do is buy the spool gun. I bought the Miller on ebay for $400. It was brand new from a pawn shop. I had to look for a long time, but it pays off. On the subject of tube benders, you can't go wrong with the JD2. I started with the base model and slowly built it up to the pneumatic/hydraulic version. I bought a new hydraulic cylinder on ebay for $100. Then I found the hydraulic pump new on ebay for $180. I have about $600 in it. It sells new for $1295. If you take your time to search ebay, you can save alot of money. Good luck.
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Unread 03-14-2010, 07:53 AM   #12
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I have a Miller 130xp (120v) and the new miller 211 with the multi voltage plug and auto-set.
I run .023 wire in my 130 and .030 in my 211.
The 211 will do decent light mild steel welding (plus you can weld aluminum with the spool gun) but certainly shines with the thicker stuff.

My 130 lays does smooth beads with great penetration for a 120V welder.
It all depends on what you are fabricating. I bought the 211 for building and repairing trailer frames, and suspension stuff.
The 130 with the right gas will do a lot of work and I still use it more than my 211.

If you are new to mig welding the autoset on the 180 and 211 is nice. I find it a bit aggressive on wire speed but its great to get you started.

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Unread 03-14-2010, 10:30 AM   #13
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Lincoln or Miller...
Once you have a look in a Hobart, or have to replace parts in a Hobart, you won't want it anymore.

Hobart may be owned by Miller, but it's NOT a Miller by any means!

Our body shop guys like Lincoln, they can do more 'Tricks' with them.
Body shop doesn't do things like frames or roll cages.

Our fab shop & production guys like Miller.
Once you set a Miller up, there isn't any tinkering with it, it stays RIGHT where you put it.

The Miller welders have better transformer coils,
They lean into the work better than Lincoln and generally have longer duty cycles with less 'Fade', meaning they don't cool down at the weld as the machine heats up from use...

I do a little bit of everything, so I use Blue...
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Unread 03-14-2010, 11:34 AM   #14
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When I was was a full-time welder in the shipyard, Miller was the only brand that we used. I would burn on an average 40 lbs of flux core (1/16) wire a day with no problems (just had to change out the tips, insulators, and about once a month, the liners).
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