[CJ367]

I've just replaced the front wheel bearings and seals on my 1980 CJ7, and I went back with the Warn Premium Manual Locking Hubs as an upgrade to the stock hubs. Everything went pretty well, except having a bunch of parts left over !

So the install now includes: inner seal, inner bearing, inner race, outer race, outer bearing, wheel washer 1, wheel nut 1, wheel washer 2, wheel nut 2, axle snap ring, Warn hub base, Warn hub lock. Was any of the rest of the stock stuff like the spring, brass bushing, hub clutch, outer snap ring, gear, supposed to be shoved in there somewhere?

I ask, because the new hubs don't seem to disengage from the axle, regardless of the position of the lock (4 X 2 or 4 X 4)

Thanks in advance for your patience, and I would very much appreciate any advice...

[SuB8HaVeN]

I'm not sure about what all the Warn hubs include, but you may want to check to make sure you didn't pack way too much grease in there. I went crazy packing grease into my hubs and they were sticking as well and not immediately unlocking. After cleaning some excess out it was alrighty.

[CJ367]

I did smoodge up the spline a little, to be sure there was no metal to metal wear, so maybe I went overboard! Thanks, I'll check it out...

[Mr.Crowley]

Im pretty sure you only need the 2 washers and 2 lock nuts. for the axle..The rest should be included with the warn hubs..Whatever they included in the package..I dont see you having to reuse any parts of the stock lock outs..

[BrianABE]

Check and make sure you did not tighten down the inner nuts to tight. If you jack the front tire up you should be able to spin it easy. If it's to tight it will keep it from unlocking.

Should only be a 2 washers and 2 nuts. Also recheck the spring right behind the hub face to make sure it isn't bound up.

[CJ367]

Thanks, Fellas'!

I went back and checked each wheel, raising one at a time (like the instructions said), and they seem to be fine now. Maybe just a little tight at first...

The bearing nuts were installed just like the manual recommends, 50 ft. pounds, then backed off 45 degrees. I have to tell you that I find the bending of the outside washer over the nut a strange design. But I reckon' it works, and without having to have too special of a washer or nut set!

My only other experience with 4X4's was years back when I had an old Bronco. It had the special nut with the small pin on the side, the multi-holed tabbed washer washer, etc....

Anyway, thanks again for the help, and I'm just learning as I go!

[Mike Romain]

Originally Posted by Texas CJ7

I've just replaced the front wheel bearings and seals on my 1980 CJ7, and I went back with the Warn Premium Manual Locking Hubs as an upgrade to the stock hubs. Everything went pretty well, except having a bunch of parts left over !

So the install now includes: inner seal, inner bearing, inner race, outer race, outer bearing, wheel washer 1, wheel nut 1, wheel washer 2, wheel nut 2, axle snap ring, Warn hub base, Warn hub lock. Was any of the rest of the stock stuff like the spring, brass bushing, hub clutch, outer snap ring, gear, supposed to be shoved in there somewhere?

I ask, because the new hubs don't seem to disengage from the axle, regardless of the position of the lock (4 X 2 or 4 X 4)

Thanks in advance for your patience, and I would very much appreciate any advice...

Did you get all new hubs still in the box?

The outer snap ring holds/held the gear on the axle right? What holds the new gear on there now?

I ask because the ring in the outer case moves outward to unlock the hubs. If the axle gear isn't held in with the outer snap ring, it will just lift up with the outer ring I would think.

I bought just the outer half of the warn hub and used all my CJ stuff on the axle half.

[CJ367]

I did get the new hubs in a sealed box, so I'm fairly positive that all required parts were there.

And I guess your questioning of the snap rings is the one that still has me thinkin'!

The outer snap ring is NOT installed, as it seems to me that the new hub has everything included, like the gear and such. The inner snap ring, which is under the hub base and installed just where the axle emerges from the spindle IS installed, to keep the axle where it needs to be.

To this newbie, engagement occurs when the hub gear washers (teeth on the outside, looks like a big star washer) is pushed IN to "grab" the I.D. of the hub base, thus locking all components together.

With all this, is seems to me that the outer snap ring would just be in the way and foul up the works.

Like I said, based on the tests in the instructions, and after rotating them a bit, all seems to be functioning properly!

I'll be sure to post back if (when?) that changes.

Thanks Again!

[Mike Romain]

Originally Posted by Texas CJ7

I did get the new hubs in a sealed box, so I'm fairly positive that all required parts were there.

And I guess your questioning of the snap rings is the one that still has me thinkin'!

The outer snap ring is NOT installed, as it seems to me that the new hub has everything included, like the gear and such. The inner snap ring, which is under the hub base and installed just where the axle emerges from the spindle IS installed, to keep the axle where it needs to be.

To this newbie, engagement occurs when the hub gear washers (teeth on the outside, looks like a big star washer) is pushed IN to "grab" the I.D. of the hub base, thus locking all components together.

With all this, is seems to me that the outer snap ring would just be in the way and foul up the works.

Like I said, based on the tests in the instructions, and after rotating them a bit, all seems to be functioning properly!

I'll be sure to post back if (when?) that changes.

Thanks Again!

I was thinking if there is nothing there to hold the gear down, it would lift up with the movement of the disconnect ring gear and maybe not disengauge right away, especially if the grease is cold.

I believe the snap rings are 'axle' parts, not necessarily hub parts, but could be way off.

Anyhow, my warn hub needs the outer snap ring to work with the Jeep hub's inner gear or at least it does work quite well with it in place.

[CJ367]

And the final answer is, and in order of assembly...

Inner seal, inner bearing, inner race, outer race, outer bearing, wheel washer 1, wheel nut 1, wheel washer 2, wheel nut 2, Warn hub base, axle snap ring, Warn hub lock.

Hopefully, this will help some other newb along the way!

Mike, you were absolutely correct! Thanks to you, everyone else, and Aaron Hall at Warn Customer Service for their contribution!