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Unread 03-27-2012, 08:30 AM   #31
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BTW- its good to "be back". I am gonna need a BOATLOAD of help on this one.

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Unread 03-27-2012, 03:51 PM   #32
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Bout time. Welcome back Chris. Don't worry about going slow, and don't worry about not having any money. Our build is exactly like yours!! In fact, you can check out our build and see everything you SHOULDN'T do! Save money that way. The greatest discipline you can achieve is to become patient with this process. Watching all these guys button-up their rigs really works on the JAS (Jeep Anxiety Scale!), making you want to progress. But hang in there... you will. Congrats on the May graduation date. I have two here that are graduating too! Of course... not at your level. Sooo... are you going to run for President!?

Keep up the work Bud. What you have done thus far looks very good.
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Unread 03-27-2012, 05:16 PM   #33
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Looks like you've put alot of work in her, keep it up you're going good. And I agree, that area of the carolinas is nice. I see you go to Clemson, I just spent almost a year there, building the new Lee hall expansion. I did all the glass and panel work there, nice campus.
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Unread 03-27-2012, 06:15 PM   #34
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Looks like you've put alot of work in her, keep it up you're going good. And I agree, that area of the carolinas is nice. I see you go to Clemson, I just spent almost a year there, building the new Lee hall expansion. I did all the glass and panel work there, nice campus.
Flaggdog, glad you liked it. Ihave been a residential builder for the last 10 years, but just went back to finish. The Lee Hall constuction looks great. All of these projects will be done after I am gone! I will go over and check out your stuff on Thursday.

Scott you dirty dog! Hope your family is well! I was accepted to both Clemson and Western Carolina for grad school ( I might have told you that already). I am going to Western- its MUCH cheaper.

While the going may be slow, I can do something almost everyday.

I did the wheels a few weeks ago. They are a little dirty, because I had to move them from the dining room table to the garage- go figure. Here is how they started


Primer coat(s)


And the white! (doesn't show well)


I did the back sides in Rusto hammered black.


Starting on welding in new floor pans/sections- questions to follow
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Unread 03-27-2012, 06:21 PM   #35
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Bring it on Big Dog!! Wheels look very good.
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Unread 03-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #36
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I'm doing the Rusto metallic charcoal as a final color. I will keep that silver in the engine compartment, and the underbelly will be the rubberized undercoating. I like the hammered on the insides of the wheels, so I will roll with that on the bumpers and the tire carrier. White wheels complete the paint. Inside the tub will be a good liner- Raptor if I can afford it- Herculiner or ? if I can't. Black seats, Black Supertop, grenade shifters round out the plan.

I am keeping the factory center caps. I polished them up, but there was major pitting in the recesses. I put them on my oscillating spindle sander and de-chromed the recesses. After that, tape, and a shot of Rusto hammered.







I wanna put em back on just to see, but wont
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Unread 03-27-2012, 07:23 PM   #37
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Ain't it cool how you just start doing stuff?
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Unread 03-27-2012, 07:42 PM   #38
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Ain't it cool how you just start doing stuff?
Yezzir. Most of the cosmetic stuff isn't so scary- even the welding and body work. And heck, I like to paint stuff. BUT when I look at a motor, I almost cry. Seriously, I almost cry. I am a good plumber and electrician so brakes, gas and wiring don't bring the tears.

I took out the driver's side floor. And tomorrow will wack out the passenger side. A local guy that does a lot of jeep restoration insists that I do my repairs from the bottom. Anybody know why??



Ain't silver sharpie the BOMB?



This one's wrecked and gotta go.



Me new floors, ARGH!

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I'm going to guess that doing repairs from the bottom will seal it up and keep it water/dirt free. Doing it from the top leaves it open underneath. Probably one of them things a ol local boy could figger out hisself... But sometimes people just gotta tell you how to do it!
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Unread 03-28-2012, 07:35 PM   #40
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scott- you funny.

Ok. managed to accomplish some surgery today. Ran out of parts at work, so headed home to my mistress.

Took the hind end off cinnamon (that sound dirty and she even sounds like a stripper).



Got the rear off blue as well.



Pieces side by side



The cinnamon one seems to be a little longer from the corner seam to the back. All in all seems trimmable, and this should work well. Maiden welding voyage tomorrow. Gonna practice on some pieces first.
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Unread 03-28-2012, 09:37 PM   #41
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In addition to real homework I have been doing some engine homework as well. I risk burying this question in the build, but I will crack a fresh thread if I don't get enough response.

My graduation present may be fast approaching. I have been looking, and nothing really answers the question: Whais the easiest engine/tranny combo to drop in a JEEP? I will keep the D300, and the 20/30 combo. I am open to replacing the T4- might as well while everything is open.

I am not crawling up buildings and I don't need to do 11 sec. 1/4 mile.

I need the easiest, most idiot-proof engine installation. No spaghetti mess vacuum lines and smog nests. When you guys start talking engines I generally glaze over, and look for more pictures.

Most of the "which engine" questions found here revolve around torque, hp, or cost. Of course I don't want a dog of a motor, or one that will cost 2k to put in. I just want easy.
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Holey Moley! Is that question ever going to get you some responses! For my part, I will say the 258/T176 combo. Should be able to find one pretty easy, and it's a very good combo. The V8 will give you the testosterone rush, but none of the AMC V8s will get you any gas mileage. The 258 may not either, but it's possible to get 20... so I'm told. Other engine swaps won't be problematic as long as you have all the components for it. Just depends on what YOU want. But I like the 258.
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Unread 03-28-2012, 10:10 PM   #43
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Is it easy though? I have read numerous posts on performance and quality. I am a total engine noob.
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Unread 03-28-2012, 10:14 PM   #44
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EVERYBODY is a Noob until they do it the first time Chris. You had a 4 banger in the Jeep you're going to run? I don't know if they share the same motor mount positions, but that is just welding. The engine swap, ANY engine swap, means having all the parts and bolting them in. Buying a complete "ready-to-use" engine means no spec work. Literally bolt it up, wire it, and go.
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Unread 03-29-2012, 08:31 AM   #45
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I am trying not to get ahead of myself (like shining the center caps when the JEEP is in unrecognizable pieces all over the floor) BUT it will need a new (to me) power plant.

Yes it does have the AMC 4 cyl. I am sure it could be a fine motor- just not where I hope to take it.

I LOVE the idea of 258, and know where one is.... The dude at Clemson 4 Wheel also suggested the 4.0. They are everywhere cheap (like 5 million made, and old Cherokees everywhere) and there is lots of aftermarket support. I am good with either, but need easy. I like the idea of the injection with the 4.0. The last thing I need is to have a carb to build/rebuild or tune.
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