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Unread 10-27-2012, 03:07 AM   #1
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Twin white CJ8s project.

Some background on the project for you blokes. I have sold my first Scrambler to a mate who already has exactly the same vehicle. The plan is to get him back on the road in a registered CJ and then over time rebuild the other one most likely with a diesel/auto power train. So yesterday we got her all fired up and fangin around the paddock and the end of the street. Went surprisingly well given it hasn't run for quite a few years. Today it was a wheels swap and some other small stuff, sun visors etc and a general clean out.
We found many large cavities. There was no rust thankfully just great big holes where it used to be.
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And small pile of CJ underneath
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So my question is where do we get good new repro body parts keeping in mind we are closer to the Philipines than we are to you?
We will make this one safe and sealed and inconspicuous to the constabulary so he can drive a CJ whilst he goes the full 9 yards on the other one.

So what do you think? Where do the good sections come from?


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Unread 10-27-2012, 06:44 AM   #2
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The MD Juan Company in the Philippines makes CJ-8 tubs but quality is far from superior. The steel is OK, but the hand fitment to match OEM body lines leaves something to desire. They make them in stainless as well and you could probably get them cheaper there than in the US.
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Unread 12-09-2012, 04:28 AM   #3
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The twins have moved into their temporary home. This is our new workshop next door which needs a lot more remodeling before we can start working in there. I had to get the jeeps out of the way so I thought it would be a good spot for them


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Unread 12-09-2012, 09:37 AM   #4
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So my question is where do we get good new repro body parts keeping in mind we are closer to the Philipines than we are to you?
We will make this one safe and sealed and inconspicuous to the constabulary so he can drive a CJ whilst he goes the full 9 yards on the other one.

So what do you think? Where do the good sections come from?
Classic Enterprises makes the best quality replacement panels on the market that I have ever used. The quality and fitment are far superior to anything else out there. I have also used the front floor panels and underseat replacement panels made by Key Parts Inc.. These panels are exact matches to the factory floor pans; definitely the best replacement floor panels I have ever found. I just got done using these floor panels and some Classic Enterprises pieces in one of my '84 CJ8 Alaskan Postal Scramblers and am very happy with the results.

Classic Enterprises: http://www.classicent.com/

Key Parts Inc. floor panels: http://www.quadratec.com/products/22507_0100.htm

Individual floor panel part numbers:
Left front floor panel: 0480-225L
Right front floor panel: 0480-226R
Left underseat panel: 0480-227L
Right underseat panel: 0480-228R

You can use these part numbers to shop around and find the best prices for the panels.

I also used these side / quarter panels on one of my Alaskan Postal CJ-8 from Omix-Ada. The fitment was okay at best but there are not any better options out there. The wheel well area where there is the raised lip appears to be hand formed and does not match the original wheel well contour exactly. The top lip on the tub ledge for the replacement panel does not match the contour of the original panel. I would recommend using as much of the replacement panels top lip to get the seam where you weld the new panel to the body tub as far forward as you can towards to door opening to make it less noticeable. If the tub lip on your original panels are not damaged you could cut the panel off right below the lip and weld the new panel in here, thus letting you retain the original tub lip and avoid the fitment issues. But it will require a significant more amount of welding. I tried talking to Classic Enterprises about making a replacement panel for Scrambler's that consisted of the raised lip portion around the rear wheel where the wheel well meets the quarter panel and the fender flares attach along with having a few inches of metal around this area since most Scramblers do not need an entire quarter panel replacement. They told me there wouldn't be any demand for Scrambler specific parts. To bad, I know I could use at least 6 of them!

Side panel part numbers to search for prices:
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12009.13

Hope that helps!
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Unread 12-09-2012, 11:31 PM   #5
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Classic Enterprises makes the best quality replacement panels on the market that I have ever used. The quality and fitment are far superior to anything else out there. I have also used the front floor panels and underseat replacement panels made by Key Parts Inc.. These panels are exact matches to the factory floor pans; definitely the best replacement floor panels I have ever found. I just got done using these floor panels and some Classic Enterprises pieces in one of my '84 CJ8 Alaskan Postal Scramblers and am very happy with the results.

Classic Enterprises: http://www.classicent.com/

Key Parts Inc. floor panels: http://www.quadratec.com/products/22507_0100.htm

Individual floor panel part numbers:
Left front floor panel: 0480-225L
Right front floor panel: 0480-226R
Left underseat panel: 0480-227L
Right underseat panel: 0480-228R

You can use these part numbers to shop around and find the best prices for the panels.

I also used these side / quarter panels on one of my Alaskan Postal CJ-8 from Omix-Ada. The fitment was okay at best but there are not any better options out there. The wheel well area where there is the raised lip appears to be hand formed and does not match the original wheel well contour exactly. The top lip on the tub ledge for the replacement panel does not match the contour of the original panel. I would recommend using as much of the replacement panels top lip to get the seam where you weld the new panel to the body tub as far forward as you can towards to door opening to make it less noticeable. If the tub lip on your original panels are not damaged you could cut the panel off right below the lip and weld the new panel in here, thus letting you retain the original tub lip and avoid the fitment issues. But it will require a significant more amount of welding. I tried talking to Classic Enterprises about making a replacement panel for Scrambler's that consisted of the raised lip portion around the rear wheel where the wheel well meets the quarter panel and the fender flares attach along with having a few inches of metal around this area since most Scramblers do not need an entire quarter panel replacement. They told me there wouldn't be any demand for Scrambler specific parts. To bad, I know I could use at least 6 of them!

Side panel part numbers to search for prices:
12009.14
12009.13

Hope that helps!
Thanks very much for all that info. That'll be helpful for sure. MDJuan has an appointed distributor here in Oz but he's not being real helpful so far so we'll look into these options. Thanks again.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 07:27 AM   #6
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www.aqualu.com While its not a 100% accurate since it aluminum and somethings are a little different from the original...but quality is better then the MD Juan stuff. I was thinking of going this route but I bought all the panels from Classic Enterprises to fix my tub. Starting to regret the decision though.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 10:47 PM   #7
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So today we got wrenching. Got the tub off and put up outta the way
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Cleaned down the frame somewhat. Very nice to see perfect condition, no rot or even original paint coming off anywhere.
We then tore out the T5 and D300. They will go into my red 8 which has the worlds second slowest 999 auto (the slowest 999 is in the other white one) Power sucking things those particular autos I reckon and when you don't have much to start with it can be a problem
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If I'm not too messed up tomorrow from the wedding I'm about to go to I'll start on the "from underneath" removal of the 999 and t case from the red one. Plan on buying four ramps and driving it up on all four at once to give me some room to manoova. Can't wait to drive this think with a manual, reckon it'll be like night and day.

The official plan for the white one is to insert a 3.8L V6 with a 4L60 auto and all the trimmings with an Advance Adaptors kit. Should be sweet as for this guys DD and country cruiser when he goes down south.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 11:36 PM   #8
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Gary, that looks like it will be one hell of a project!

Curious why the Jeep addiction living down under. It seems like Toyota's are far easier to get parts for and have some awesome diesel fuel options in your part of the world that we can't touch here. I have to imagine Jeep parts are a bit of a challenge.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 11:51 PM   #9
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Gary, that looks like it will be one hell of a project!

Curious why the Jeep addiction living down under. It seems like Toyota's are far easier to get parts for and have some awesome diesel fuel options in your part of the world that we can't touch here. I have to imagine Jeep parts are a bit of a challenge.
Toyota! Pffft! That's a work vehicle. We get our parts from USand pay abit for freight
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holy crap, is it only scramblers over there! I am jealous.
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holy crap, is it only scramblers over there! I am jealous.
I think only 27000 were made, is that right? Well my mates and I have four of them, that's 26996 to go!
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So today we picked up the new donk and trans for the 8. Some long evenings coming up.
Pretty exciting stuff.

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Hey folks I've posted a thread in the for sale forum for one of the world cab tops for the Overlander. The pointy frame doors will go with it. Thought this would be a good place to tell about it. Hope no one minds.

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For a second i thought you were selling one of the CJ8's and i was going to have to come visit you..... You dodged a bullet there
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I love the bottle on the fender Good day on the sand eh?
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