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Unread 11-05-2010, 08:47 PM   #1
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Trapshooter's BDS 2.5" Suspension Install Thread - Photo Heavy

Started the process of installing the new BDS suspension into my CJ7.

Here's the patient



Here's the kit

I also ordered some Rancho bump stops

Got the CJ up on the jack stands and ensured the thing wouldn't come down and whack me!!



After removing the front tires, the first order of business was to pull the old shocks.





I already had the sway bar tied up from a wheelin trip last weekend



Next was to remove the U-bolts





I think I got all the goody out of these poor guys


Notice in this picture, one U-bolt is larger than the other. The large U-bolt actually fits over the diff housing on the front right hand side. There's only one this size, all the others are smaller.


I pulled the front shackles, which are being replaced with shorter units, and pulled the rear spring attach bolts and removed the old front springs.







Here's a shot with the new and old springs laying side by side.



I installed the shorter shackles onto their hangers with new bushings. Lubed and installed the new bushings in the new springs and installed the new springs after cleaning and transfering the axle wedges.

I had to use the floor jack to lift and realign the pinon angle of the front axle. The weight of the diff cause the axle to retote down once the old springs where removed.







Once I had the axle at the correct angle and height I was able to install the front bolts with some grunting and groaning on my part.





Currently I am into the job about 3 - 3 1/2 hours. Next will be to install the new U-Bolts and the bump stops. I hope to have the installed completed by tomorrow. Will post more pics of the install tomorrow night or Sunday.

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Unread 11-05-2010, 08:51 PM   #2
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nice, thanks for the pics
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looking good so far! I've heard nothing but good things about BDS
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Can't tell you how cool this thread is. I will be watching it like a hawk!! If I were closer, I would offer to come over and help! Good luck Trap!!

Question: Any issue with the front spring eye and the shackle? I am struggling with choosing the right shackles.
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Unread 11-06-2010, 09:39 AM   #5
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Question: Any issue with the front spring eye and the shackle? I am struggling with choosing the right shackles.
In answer to your question, no, they matched right up.

I was limited in my budget for this project. I am using a set of used 4 inch Confer shackles I found at a garage sale a couple of years ago. The set I removed where Confer 6 inchers.

In the future I plan install a set of Currie 4 inch shackles with the tow bar feature for the front set.

Fighting a cold this morning but need to get my rig back together. Off to work I go.....
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The Front is Compelte - Sort off...

Got back to it somewhat late today, came down with a nasty head cold. I wasn't going to let it stop me.

Got all the U-bolts in for the front. They hang down a little more than I like but we'll go with it for now.





Here's a shot of the one U-Bolt that is larger than the rest



Installed the new shocks and bump stops and started to grow concerned that the new stops are to large.



Decided to leave the stops on and wait until the front end was on the ground



Sure looks like they are to big. Open to any feedback here, I am thinking I don't have enough clearance and I will be into them all the time. They are Rancho 3" stops. They are 5 1/2" overall.

I decided to press forward and made sure I have adequate clearance with the steering all the way to the stops





All told I had about 6 to 6 1/2 hours to complete the front.

Now on to the back.



Got the CJ up on the stands and the tires off



Ended up doing something different with the rear diff. Took a bottle jack and a piece of hardwood to hold the pinion angle.



The only unexpected item I ran across was with the right rear shackle. The PO must of either had the fuel tank out or installed the shackle on the hanger before the hanger was installed. There was insufficient clearance to remove the upper shackle bolt.



Here is the rear suspension removed and the new springs for comparison



I am about 2 to 2 1/2 hours into the rear suspension. Lost about 2 hours messing with my old Snap On floor jack, its going in for repair, plus this head cold I have was kicking my A**. Do one thing, lay on the floor, do something else lay on the floor some more.

Kind of like my almost 15 year old dog here.............



Just need to clean a few things, then I will be able to assemble the rear suspension.

More tomorrow......
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looking at the spring comparison it looks like you didnt gain anything? explanation?

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looking at the spring comparison it looks like you didnt gain anything? explanation?

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i would imagine the new ones are much stiffer
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looking at the spring comparison it looks like you didnt gain anything? explanation?

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What are you expecting to see? My 4" lift compared to stock don't look dramatically different.

The springs install in the same location so they aren't going to be longer. It's more about how the leafs are made that give the lift.
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looking at the spring comparison it looks like you didnt gain anything? explanation?

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I would assume that if he was keeping the same pinion angle that the old lift is 2.5 inches as well?
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What are you expecting to see? My 4" lift compared to stock don't look dramatically different.

The springs install in the same location so they aren't going to be longer. It's more about how the leafs are made that give the lift.
well, he didnt show a completed front pic. but it didnt look like very much of a gain. Maybe its to late for me!

Nice intall though!

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well, he didnt show a completed front pic. but it didnt look like very much of a gain. Maybe its to late for me!

Nice intall though!

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His lift kit is a 2.5" lift, it's not a dramatic amount of lift. Once he gets it done and posts a picture of before and after you'll notice the difference.
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I think he may be upgrading to better quality springs and perhaps a better overall ride. At least, that is what I am hoping the BDS will deliver! :-)
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I think he may be upgrading to better quality springs and perhaps a better overall ride. At least, that is what I am hoping the BDS will deliver! :-)
BDS is supposed to be a big improvement in ride quality over stock which is horrible. They are supposed to flex like crazy too!
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BDS is supposed to be a big improvement in ride quality over stock which is horrible. They are supposed to flex like crazy too!
I am very excited about this lift. Seems like the time spent waiting for the Black Diamond will not be a waste after all!
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