trans ?

bigflatblack · 04-03-2007, 03:10 PM

i have a 84 ford ranger 4x4 with a five speed....my ?...is can that bolt up to the back of a 258 in a cj7....if it does will it be too weak for the 258 and also will the dana 300 work with it?

bigflatblack · 04-03-2007, 04:25 PM

anyone??

**bdmonist** · 04-03-2007, 05:29 PM

What's the tranny and what is it behind now? Go here and see what they have:
www.novak-adapt.com

You can usually make anything work, the question is - is it financially justified to do so?

bigflatblack · 04-03-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bdmonist

What's the tranny and what is it behind now? Go here and see what they have:
www.novak-adapt.com

You can usually make anything work, the question is - is it financially justified to do so?

well for me i could afford it....i have a ranger that has a shot 2.3 and its 4x4 with a 5spd...thats why i am asking about it.....it wouldnt cost to much to do it if its swappable....so i just need help figuring up my parts list

**bdmonist** · 04-03-2007, 05:38 PM

The first thing you need to know is what the tranny is and if it's medium or light duty. Some on here may know off the top of their head, I do not. If it's medium duty, you would be fine. ONce you know the tranny, you need to research here and on the novak / AA sites to see what adapters you need to make it work. If you need an adapter for the engine and the TC, you are looking at upwards of $1000 and it probably be better to buy a different tranny. You need to consider you entire drivetrain length - Future vs Present, and determine if you will need to buy new driveshafts - More $$$ - Take it step by step, find out what you have and go from there. The guys on here will help you out a lot if you have some specific swap questions, it's tough if we don;t know what you have and what you want.

bigflatblack · 04-03-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bdmonist

The first thing you need to know is what the tranny is and if it's medium or light duty. Some on here may know off the top of their head, I do not. If it's medium duty, you would be fine. ONce you know the tranny, you need to research here and on the novak / AA sites to see what adapters you need to make it work. If you need an adapter for the engine and the TC, you are looking at upwards of $1000 and it probably be better to buy a different tranny. You need to consider you entire drivetrain length - Future vs Present, and determine if you will need to buy new driveshafts - More $$$ - Take it step by step, find out what you have and go from there. The guys on here will help you out a lot if you have some specific swap questions, it's tough if we don;t know what you have and what you want.

i know that i have a post on a ford forum trying to get the info asap...i just was asking incase anyone on here has done it ....as far as the drivetrain length now my cj has an auto it in and it would be better as a stick...thanks for trying to help me though

**bdmonist** · 04-03-2007, 05:52 PM

Auto to standard is a whole other swap in its self

bigflatblack · 04-03-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bdmonist

Auto to standard is a whole other swap in its self

i know thats why i am trying to figure if it will work....i hate my auto and want a stick and hell i already have that 5spd laying around so....

Bard · 04-03-2007, 05:57 PM

Nope, don't think it is worth your time or money to swap it. Ford made a few 5 speeds for rangers up to 85 and then made the 4 speed optional. They were light duty. I would rebuild your tranny. The amount of work it will take to be a manual is alot to gather parts, clutch linkage, pedal assembly, flywheel, driveshafts, etc, etc.

Live with it and when you have the funds, you can do it the way you want to. In my opinion, the easiest way is to buy a parts rig (rust bucket) with a good running drive train. Take what you need, sell the rest and try to break even.

KrazyGimp · 04-03-2007, 07:06 PM

Well if the info in your profile is correct it looks like you are running a Dana 300 t-case, correct? If so, and you ARE set on a manual swap, I would recommend looking for a T-176 from a CJ. They are a well built 4 speed manual that will bolt straight up to your engine and t-case (read: save $1,000). At that point you would be looking at new driveshafts at the very least. You could probably mod your current skid plate to mount to or buy one from a CJ that came with a 258/t-176 combo and it should bolt right up.

Then you are into the issue of swapping the entire pedal assembly for the clutch. Next you need to probably fab up brackets to swap the clutch linkage in among other little things. Don't know if any of this helps though....

**Rob55** · 04-03-2007, 08:11 PM

I have most all of the manual parts I swapped out of my CJ when I changed over to the 700r4. (T-176, bell housing, flywheel, pressureplate, drive shafts, swing pedals, shifter, and a never installed hydraulic clutch kit) It was all backed up by a Dana300 (which I kept). All of it worked fine at the time I pulled it out and there are some small parts I don't have, but I can let you have it for $500. I am not too far from you, about 85 miles. You would need a clutch fork, shifter pins, pedal springs, brake swith, small bits...

bigflatblack · 04-04-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bard

Nope, don't think it is worth your time or money to swap it. Ford made a few 5 speeds for rangers up to 85 and then made the 4 speed optional. They were light duty. I would rebuild your tranny. The amount of work it will take to be a manual is alot to gather parts, clutch linkage, pedal assembly, flywheel, driveshafts, etc, etc.

Live with it and when you have the funds, you can do it the way you want to. In my opinion, the easiest way is to buy a parts rig (rust bucket) with a good running drive train. Take what you need, sell the rest and try to break even.

i have everything for it i just want to know if it will work or not

bigflatblack · 04-05-2007, 11:57 AM

anyone ever doe this swap??