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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:05 PM   #1
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Title problem...help and advice requested

Folks,

So I took it down to get my jeep inspected today. All they do here in KS is VIN check. The VIN on my firewall matched the title, no problem. The issue came up when there is a plastic CJ5 emblem on the side, and the vin says it is a CJ7. Part of me is kicking myself for not taking that plastic stickon piece off, and the other part knows that I want things done right in the long run.

Now I have to take it in to their headquarters tomorrow, for them to look it over. Can anybody give me some advice? I am trying hard not to worry about it, but I could sure use some other's input.

The doors do look like it could be a CJ5. How messed up am I?

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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:16 PM   #2
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If the doors look like a cj5 then it can't be a cj7, can you just take off that emblem and let them think its a cj7?
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:20 PM   #3
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Is it a 7 or a 5? Picture?
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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Post a pic and we can tell you if it's a 5 or a 7. The 5 door entry looks like an "S" and the 7 looks like a "U".

Someone could have easily put a 5 emblem on a 7 or vice versa.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:25 PM   #5
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I found you. You have a CJ5. So if the vin number you have is saying CJ7, you have some problems.

I'm not sure where the other vin numbers are on the 5, but on mine there's a vin on firewall, windshield by dash, and one on top of the frame near front shock mount. See if your numbers match up.

Do a vin search and confirm what it says yourself. Your firewall should definitely be for a 5, if not, someone's been playing around.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:28 PM   #6
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There are hidden VIN's on the frame.
Fraud is serious c'it ........
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:33 PM   #7
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Thanks for the encouragement guys Now I AM worried. I am glad for the help.

Here is a pic of the jeep.

Any other thoughts or ideas? That is the last thing I need...fraud. Great. Everything looked so legit also.

Thanks again for the help.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:38 PM   #8
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Tell them it's a 7 and you just switched the door openings to a 5 cause you thought they looked cooler! No really good luck. Can you ask the PO?

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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #9
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See the red? That's where my vin is located on my firewall. Check out if that area with the vin seems weird at all. Other than it being a different color.

Again, I'd look up the vin to verify what it reads myself. Whoever wrote up the title could have mistakenly put CJ7
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Unread 05-07-2013, 03:48 PM   #10
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The picture shows a post, 1980 CJ-5.
Somedangbody has been play'n the VIN switch 'game'.
Very common when stolen.........
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Unread 05-07-2013, 04:09 PM   #11
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Don't think you can outsmart them; there's a 10 inch difference in the wheel base. (83.5" vs 93.5") You've got a 5 with a 7 VIN and you'd better figure out how it got that way. There is a place on the frame where the last numbers of the VIN are stamped. I'm confident by just the picture they're not going to match, but measure.

You might as well go here and decipher the VIN and see what other conflicts you have: http://www.vehicleidentificationnumb...eep-truck.html

How long have you had the Jeep and can you still find the owner? There's a good chance you may need a ride home from headquarters. Seriously.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 04:15 PM   #12
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Don't think you can outsmart them; there's a 10 inch difference in the wheel base. You've got a 5 with a 7 VIN and you'd better figure out how it got that way. There is a place on the frame where the last numbers of the VIN are stamped. I'm confident by just the picture they're not going to match.

You might as well go here and decipher the VIN and see what other conflicts you have: http://www.vehicleidentificationnumb...eep-truck.html
Agreed. That's the first thing I'd be doing. Verify the vin. Go from there.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 04:17 PM   #13
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There's more than 1 place on the frame for that info, BTW.
You have damn well better get in touch with the PO/RO, ASAP!
You DO have a signed BOS, 'rite'??
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Unread 05-07-2013, 04:28 PM   #14
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Now I remember your Jeep, Yours is the one without rear brakes and bought at an auction?

What kind of auction was it? Is there any chance THEY knew it was shady? Are dealers licensed in your state? Were they required to verify the VIN as a dealer?

Don't spend any more on it until this is straightened out. I hate to say it, but I think there's a chance you may have to take them to court. THEY (if they're a licensed dealer) should know the difference between a 5 and a 7.
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Unread 05-07-2013, 05:26 PM   #15
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I met a guy, years ago, that had the same problem. He spent $200 and titled it in Mass, he lived in Md. Then used that title to register it in Md. He bought it from someone in Va, but going back 2-3 previous owners turned up nada. If the frame number shows up as stolen the authorities will confiscate the Jeep and return it to the guy That had it stolen.

A high profile car was just returned to the original owner, Director Quentin Tarantino's 1964 Chevelle Malibu was recovered in the San Francisco Bay area after being reported stolen in 1994.
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