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post #1 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:00 PM Thread Starter
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thout i a had a locker, but found a lsd

my poor old heep is a 1984 cj7 4.2/ t5 /dana 300/ amc20
well i was changing the rear diff lube to day and found out that i don`t have a locker like i was told when i got the jeep. but really a lsd so badly broken that it works like a locker. my ???? is what type is it. can i buy parts to fix it and were to get them. and how hard this will be to do.

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post #2 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:11 PM
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thats a locker, its a lunch box style, someone will chime in and be able to tell the difference between the available ones
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post #3 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:14 PM
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Looks like a richmond power trax lock-right. I just installed one in my front D30 last weekend.
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post #4 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:15 PM
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thats a locker, its a lunch box style, someone will chime in and be able to tell the difference between the available ones
X2, I'm not sure who's either

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really so what with the pins?

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The pins and springs are to keep the locker "locked" while moving straight and to allow it to "slip" when turning.
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post #7 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:18 PM
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Lock-right i have one in my front d30 on my 7. Yours looks kinda funny though, not sure why it's notched around the spring/pin, mine wasn't like that.
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Lock-right i have one in my front d30 on my 7. Yours looks kinda funny though, not sure why it's notched around the spring/pin, mine wasn't like that.
it is cuze the pins are side ways in there so it doesn't unlock it turns (not my doing)

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it is cuze the pins are side ways in there so it doesn't unlock it turns (not my doing)
Well these are excellent lockers and should out last your axles... so sounds like someone prior to you did not install it correctly

You can call richmond and send them a couple pics also with your axle specs and they might be able to send you out some replacement parts.
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post #10 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:31 PM
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not what i'm talking about, yours looks like it's malfunctioning, the area around the pins and springs looks cracked, or notched

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not what i'm talking about, yours looks like it's malfunctioning, the area around the pins and springs looks cracked, or notched

oh i see. bad install by p.o.

but they need to be replaced right? one way or an another
or can i do just the pins?

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easiest way to know is pull it out,
to do this take out the center pin, in the pic i posted (not mine btw) up by his middle finger you can see a large circular opening that's where the center pin is, get that out,

its held in at one end by a pin, which needs will probably require a punch and hammer.

then after that you pull the springs out, use a small screw driver or a dental pick,

then slide the pins where the springs were

then take out one of the 2 center pieces, then the other
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post #13 of 16 Old 10-22-2009, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
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thanks for all the help guys i am going to try and get this all done soon.

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It might be easier to just pull the entire carrier out and work at your work bench vs on the ground in your garage. You will need to slide out your axle shafts, remove the bearing caps, and gently pry the carrier right out.

Since it looks like you have a smaller ring gear, you should be able to slide the pin out w/ out removing the ring gear from the carrier. Make sure you have the correct size punch to get the crush sleave out from the pin... it can be a pain. Once the center pin is out you can start disassembling the locker by following the steps JeepnBlake mentioned above (remove the springs and slide the pins through the other side). Make sure you don't lose the spacer washers once you remove the carrier.

Hopefully everything comes out smoothly and some replacement pins and springs is all you need. Let us know if you have any troubles.

Here's a write up for the lock-right install which might come in handy for you.

D30 Lockright Install, The Outdoor Recreation Network
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post #15 of 16 Old 10-23-2009, 09:42 AM
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That's an AMC 20 'Open' differental carrier,

That someone has put a 'Lunch Box' locker into.

I'm with the other guys, I don't know why the pin holes split out like they did unless there was too much gap between the halves, but that is a WILD SPECULATION, since I'm not real familiar with diagnosing problems with 'Lunch Box' lockers...

$200 to $250 solves the problem by getting a new locker and throwing it in there,
Not much to them, really easy to install with a feeler gauge pack and basic hand tools.
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