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post #1 of 20 Old 01-20-2010, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Is there a Dana 44 that is the same width of the model 20? I have NT axles but I can add wheel spacers to get to 54.5". I would like to upgrade my front axle and was curious if there is a Dana 44 the same width. I have looked and can't find any. All I have found is Chevy's have the same drop I need but I can't find a link to the lengths.

Does anyone have a link to the lengths and drop sides to axles? I will eventually upgrade both axles but not for a few years. Thanks.


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If there was you wouldn't see so much info on cutting down other Dana 44s.

Unless you can find someone selling a 44 modified for a CJ, you're out of luck.
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That's what I figured. Thanks CSP.

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Is the 44 full floater rear out off the m38a1 the same width?

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If there was you wouldn't see so much info on cutting down other Dana 44s.

Unless you can find someone selling a 44 modified for a CJ, you're out of luck.
some 1986 CJ7's came from the factory with D44 rear axles stock.

http://www.jeepgod.net/d44.html


rare? yes, but they do exist.

witness:

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post #6 of 20 Old 01-20-2010, 01:52 PM
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i think he is looking for a front D44. as far as the AMC 20, if you have narrow track, i would think a D44 out of a 72-75 CJ would be the same width. and yes, some '86s came with a D44 rear. they are really not that rare. i've seen plenty 86's with it and have an '86 of my own with the D44...maybe its a northeastern thing lol
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i think he is looking for a front D44. as far as the AMC 20, if you have narrow track, i would think a D44 out of a 72-75 CJ would be the same width...
I went off his first line, "is there a D44 the same width as the model 20..."

in any event, more D44 info

http://www.jeeptech.com/axle/d44.html

http://www.jeeptech.com/axle/d44f.html

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post #8 of 20 Old 01-20-2010, 02:29 PM
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I have the off-set 44 in the rear of my jeep. I just need to find a nice 30 for the front, or put some disks on my 27 which is probably what I will do.

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Is the 44 full floater rear out off the m38a1 the same width?
M38A1 rear is a semifloating tapered axle 44. In regards to width, I think they're a little narrower.
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some 1986 CJ7's came from the factory with D44 rear axles stock.
Yes they did. There are also D44s found in '72-75 CJs that are the same width as his AMC 20. Then there are those found in Commando's which are the same width and even have the same spring perch spacing.

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I would like to upgrade my front axle and was curious if there is a Dana 44 the same width.
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You probably already know it but the scout D44 from 72-80 is about 2" wider than the stock CJ7 front axle. The scout axle has zero degrees caster with the pinion horizontal. (58" WMS to WMS).
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Why does the scout axle have 0 caster, how did it work in a scout?

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You probably already know it but the scout D44 from 72-80 is about 2" wider than the stock CJ7 front axle.
The OP's narrowtrack CJ7 front axle is only 54.5".
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Why does the scout axle have 0 caster, how did it work in a scout?
Their frames were shaped differently.

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Their frames were shaped differently.
But then wouldn't they have a bad u-joint angle?

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