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Unread 08-30-2013, 06:53 AM   #16
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Good to know. I had pretty much heard all excellent things about that set. Maybe the op got the occasional lemon off the line. Unfortunate, but most anyone who had an issue with install/trail breaks raved how good they were at warranty replacements.

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Unread 08-30-2013, 07:05 AM   #17
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Vinny,

I'm curious why you want so much lift?

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Unread 08-30-2013, 09:48 AM   #18
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most anyone who had an issue with install/trail breaks raved how good they were at warranty replacements.
From the RE Warranty "Rubicon Express accepts no responsibility for any altered product, improper installation, lack of or improper maintenance or improper use of our products."

I've had friends who where denied warranty replacement based on this clause.

IMHO, BDS has the best warranty on the market... true "No questions asked" replacement. They make an excellent product too. I also prefer to buy from a company that refuses to sell their product through the mega box store/mail house retailer. You can only buy their stuff through an actual off-road shop where you don't deal with catalog jockeys.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 10:49 AM   #19
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I have to give my 35's some more wiggle room. And I'm Still riding on these 7" b2b shackles that the po put on without shims. Makes for an interesting drive! Speig I also looked at BDS. They are $500 cheaper but don't come with the brake lines, greasable shackles, or detachable sway links. And maybe a minor point but I like the stainless finish on the shocks rather than white. Too picky? Will they put together a kit custom with these options do you know?
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Unread 08-30-2013, 01:37 PM   #20
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Speig I also looked at BDS. They are $500 cheaper but don't come with the brake lines, greasable shackles, or detachable sway links. And maybe a minor point but I like the stainless finish on the shocks rather than white. Too picky? Will they put together a kit custom with these options do you know?
As I mentioned, they are sold by local shops. It's been my experience that BDS "kits" are put together on site by the retailer so there is a lot of flexibility in your selection. You can buy whatever kind of package you want. I quit buying kits years ago as there was always something I didn't like included (or something missing that I wanted included). In my case, I just got BDS springs and bushings, then picked the other items I wanted "ala carte" (Warrior greaseable shackles, MORE shackle hangers, Crown SS brake lines, Bilstein shocks, RE degree shims, JKS sway bar disconnects, custom driveshaft, etc...).

Also, BDS has partnered with Fox for their high end shocks and they come with a (sexy) stainless finish... but they are pricey.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 02:00 PM   #21
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I have to give my 35's some more wiggle
FYI, most find that in order to run 35's you need 4.5" spring and 1" body lift to keep them from rubbing unless for are cutting the fenders and tub. If you jeep is nothing but street you will be fine without the 1" bl.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 02:15 PM   #22
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Well so far NOT SO GOOD. I started actually opening each individual box of the kit last night, I opened the front shackle conversion kit, put together one shackle, then went to put the other one together. Ah Ha where are the other 2 side plates? Nowhere to be found .
Email 4Wheelparts.com the people that contacted me after I ordered to tell me it was in fact not in stock, and would be shipped at the end of the month. he tells me I need to call customer service, I call his line, he transfers me to customer service, where I wait on hold for about 15min. Finally get someone on the line and tell them i am missing some parts. She replies are you missing the sway bar end links? No I say, oh that's the only paperwork I see here she replies. So I explain what I am missing she calls RE while I'm on hold, they need the box build date. I give her that then she says they will send them out to me. I asked how long? Well they are in Cali so it will be a while!
Now I realize this is not 4wheel parts fault, but their customer service could use some work. As for RE and 4WP, when this happens parts should be over nighted to the customer in my view. Hope the rest of assembly goes better
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Unread 08-30-2013, 03:24 PM   #23
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That sucks Bo. I think this conversation is moving me back towards BDS. I am going to call and see what they price me at for everything I want. MoC I also have a 1" bl that is BDS that I put on in order to get the 35's to squeeze in. I had figured that with a 4-4.5" lift and maybe a 1/2" shackle should give me plenty. I would love to get her on the trails but right now I rub going over some curbs! I think you are right Bo about the overnight shipping. You already paid for it so basically they owe you. Besides, you could fly to California an back in one afternoon. Why does it take a week for them?!
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Unread 08-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #24
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I recently put the RE4.5 kit on my 1983 CJ7. Got the kit from 4WP. Really...I had no issues, all parts were included except 4WP substituted aluminum front shims from ProComp for the steel shims that the kit is supposed to come with. Taking those back tomorrow.

Did not use the included T -case drop kit, went with double carden shafts instead.

I had already put on the Daystar 1" bodylift earlier this year.

It clears the 35" BFG KM2's nicely.

It does ride a little stiff, but is slowly softening up.
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Unread 09-02-2013, 03:29 PM   #25
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That sucks Bo. I think this conversation is moving me back towards BDS. I am going to call and see what they price me at for everything I want. MoC I also have a 1" bl that is BDS that I put on in order to get the 35's to squeeze in. I had figured that with a 4-4.5" lift and maybe a 1/2" shackle should give me plenty. I would love to get her on the trails but right now I rub going over some curbs! I think you are right Bo about the overnight shipping. You already paid for it so basically they owe you. Besides, you could fly to California an back in one afternoon. Why does it take a week for them?!
Funny thing is I was in Cali earlier in the week! Should have opened it up sooner I guess but had no frame so it sat. Got the frame today and sitting here wishing I had shackles
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Unread 09-03-2013, 07:28 AM   #26
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I have to give my 35's some more wiggle room. And I'm Still riding on these 7" b2b shackles that the po put on without shims. Makes for an interesting drive! Speig I also looked at BDS. They are $500 cheaper but don't come with the brake lines, greasable shackles, or detachable sway links. And maybe a minor point but I like the stainless finish on the shocks rather than white. Too picky? Will they put together a kit custom with these options do you know?
Vinny,

Isn't your CJ a complete dog with 35"s and 2:73 gears? I noticed a decline in performance just stepping up to 32"s with my 258 and 2:73 setup. I can't imagine what 35"s would have done.

I dunno, unless you're committed to re-gearing, and all the steering and driveline modifications that are necessary to run 35"s, I'd reconsider.

Personally, I think running 35"s is about the hardest thing you can do to an otherwise stock CJ. The larger tires look cool, but the engine, axles, steering, and driveline are just not designed to run that much rubber.

Just my take,

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Unread 09-03-2013, 05:02 PM   #27
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I'm in Tampa if you want to check mine out.
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Unread 09-03-2013, 08:44 PM   #28
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Also in Tampa. Lemme know if/when you guys get together, I'd like to see them too.

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Unread 09-03-2013, 09:25 PM   #29
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Matt - I already have the 35's on. Had since spring time. Not slamming everyone that I read that gave me a doomsday scenario about adding them, but the real difference I felt was in stability. The jeep sits a little wider with the new wheels and sure a little heavier with the tires. But that sure makes it more stable and controllable on the road. I knew I would have to regear so I look forward to getting back some of the low rpm response. But at road speeds it picks up real nice. Also I plan on the cv shafts too so no surprises.

Capt and Magnum - sounds like a plan. Have to look at the schedule and see. Also, I belong to a club TriCounty Jeepers. We have monthly socials and are family oriented.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 04:25 PM   #30
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I joined TCJ a couple months ago..met a couple members at a 4WP grand opening event, but the jeep was broke that day. Drove my F350. Haven't made any rides or socials yet.

Woody is a friend of mine, and told me about the club.
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