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Unread 06-04-2013, 06:24 PM   #1
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Strengthening Stock Tie Rod

So I bent my tie rod all up this last trip in Moab. I have a second factory tie rod sitting in my parts pile. I am saving up for a heavy duty one with a tie rod flip, but that is 2-3 months out.

Can I make my factory one stronger? Sleve it with another piece of stock? If so what size tube?

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Unread 06-04-2013, 07:01 PM   #2
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When I bent mine, I straightened it then sleeved it with black iron pipe from the hardware store, forget what size but it fit perfect. I drilled holes down the pipe and plug welded it. It has to end a little short to leave room for the clamps that tighten up on the TRE. I'm sure you could find a stronger pipe to use like DOM, but at that point you might as well just make your own heavy duty one. The black iron pipe was cheap, easy to get, and made it stronger than stock.
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Unread 06-04-2013, 09:49 PM   #3
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When I bent mine, I straightened it then sleeved it with black iron pipe from the hardware store, forget what size but it fit perfect. I drilled holes down the pipe and plug welded it. It has to end a little short to leave room for the clamps that tighten up on the TRE. I'm sure you could find a stronger pipe to use like DOM, but at that point you might as well just make your own heavy duty one. The black iron pipe was cheap, easy to get, and made it stronger than stock.
I did the same only used tube, not DOM, just regular 1/8" wall stuff . I cut slots with a 1/4" grinder and plug welded it that way. I also welded it at both ends

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I just did mine with the black iron pipe not long ago.



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Unread 06-04-2013, 11:57 PM   #5
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In the old days doing fleet work back when most P/U's and bigger trucks were beam axles. We used to stitch weld a piece of angle iron across the tube. It did two things, salvaged a bent tie rod back into service and strengthen it at the same time. a piece of pipe/tubing works better for strengthening but you will play hell straightening a rod out and get it down a piece of pipe.
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Not sure about the USA but down here any welding on the steering arms is illegal and the car would be defected if you did as discribed. Is the US similar (officially)? I know what can be done and works but interested to hear if there is a legal issue over there with doing this.
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Not sure about the USA but down here any welding on the steering arms is illegal and the car would be defected if you did as discribed. Is the US similar (officially)? I know what can be done and works but interested to hear if there is a legal issue over there with doing this.
It is illegal to do that on commercial trucks now a days. Probably is here in the states that have annual safety inspections for private vehicles too. I was talking 30 years ago.
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We don't have inspections or emissions testing here. Plus, unless it fails and causes an accident, law enforcement is not going to know the difference. I'd never weld on a Pittman arm, as they are cast. Just the tie rod and drag link.
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We used to stitch weld a piece of angle iron across the tube. It did two things, salvaged a bent tie rod back into service and strengthen it at the same time. a piece of pipe/tubing works better for strengthening but you will play hell straightening a rod out and get it down a piece of pipe.
That's what I was going to suggest, since it's only for 2-3 months. But I doubt it would pass inspection if that falls in the same time frame.
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Unread 06-05-2013, 11:11 AM   #10
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You can straiten the stock tie rod pretty easy. Its not that thick. I did it with my bench vise. Clamped it in the vise right before the bend, then bent it strait by hand. Rolled it on the floor to make sure it was strait. Any adjustments, in the vice it went. It's not rocket science.
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Unread 06-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #11
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That's what I was going to suggest, since it's only for 2-3 months. But I doubt it would pass inspection if that falls in the same time frame.
I would guess it depends on the OP's state and if they even do inspections.
California and Nevada don't inspect other than smog
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