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Unread 06-20-2013, 02:09 PM   #1
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Stock CJ7 fold & tumble rear seat question

Did Jeep ever include a strap to keep the fold & tumble rear seat in the tumble position? Thanks.

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Unread 06-20-2013, 02:15 PM   #2
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Yes they did, for the 1985 and 86 model year. There should be a hook, that is the same one used for the door straps, that is bolted on the passenger side upper tub rail behind the roll bar.

It's circled in the picture. Don't know what the strap looks like though.
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Does the new bestop seats have a way to keep it tumbled? I biught mine just haven't taken em out of the box till I get the paint done
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Yes they did, for the 1985 and 86 model year. There should be a hook, that is the same one used for the door straps, that is bolted on the passenger side upper tub rail behind the roll bar.

I'll see if I can find a picture.
Ha, I remember making fun of a buddies Jeep when I saw that. I said "you put your bikini top tiedown in the wrong place you *******!"

Guess now 25 years later I'm the dummy!
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Does the new bestop seats have a way to keep it tumbled? I biught mine just haven't taken em out of the box till I get the paint done
I just put in a Bestop Trailmax II fold & tumble and there wasn't anything to keep it tumbled. It seems like it'll stay, but since I'm still in the build process I haven't taken it out for a drive to see for sure.

I like the clean looking method in Keith's picture.
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Anyone have a 1985 or 86 Owners Manual handy?

It should illustrate how the seat tumbles forward and how to attach the strap that holds it in place.
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I always wondered what that thing was for....makes sense! Thanks for sharing
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Anyone have a 1985 or 86 Owners Manual handy?

It should illustrate how the seat tumbles forward and how to attach the strap that holds it in place.
I'll dig mine out when I get back to the house (if I can find it)
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I have an '85 Renegade that has the fold and tumble and I think everything is intact. If I can remember tomorrow I'll see if the strap is still on it. I know the hook is there on the passenger side but it's set up slightly different than the picture above.
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I have a 86 and never new what that hook was for. I have a strap somewhere? I will dig out the owners manual tomorrow.
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Here's the strap and hook setup. The strap ISN'T the same as on the doors. It is looped on both ends, 1" wide and 13" long. What I find strange is this 1985 Renegade has aluminum strips that the hook is attached to and go onto the hardtop before the bolts go in.

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Thanks for posting the strap BlkCJ7Laredo, always wondered what that looked like and I am considering making one for my aftermarket fold-and-tumble rear seat.

Is that aluminum strip a flat piece or an angle piece?
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Thanks for posting the strap BlkCJ7Laredo, always wondered what that looked like and I am considering making one for my aftermarket fold-and-tumble rear seat.

Is that aluminum strip a flat piece or an angle piece?
It's angle. It covers the hardtop ledge where the bolts go and angles down the side where the loop goes to attach the seat strap. It has it on both sides but only has the loop for the seat on the passenger side.
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Must have been added by a PO? Never seen that before on a CJ-7 hardtop.

Would you know the exact location of the hook for the seat strap?
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I can take those measurements for you Keith. I think that the strips are factory OEM. I don't think the hardtop has ever been removed from the Jeep. Also something else I noticed with it compared to my Laredo is the carpet has pieces that cover the side panels which you can see part of it covers the B-pillar. The original OEM carpet in the Laredo never covered any of that, only the floor and wheelhouse surfaces. The Certification decal which is usually on the inside of the driver's side side panel below the door opening is attached to the edge of the steel hard door on the driver's side.

It is really a shame that this particular Jeep was let to go to such ruin because I think it was probably a really nice rig back in the day. According to the person that I got it from he purchased it in 1990 from a Repo auction and it had 65000 miles on it. It now has 66000 miles and some change. It was only used to plow the yard at his used car lot from 1990-2003 when he semi-retired and vacationed in Florida every winter. The Jeep basically always sat in a little garage on his property after that for 10 more years. Must have had a lot of moisture in there to rot this thing the way it did.

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