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post #1 of 49 Old 07-07-2013, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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steers TOO EASY, dangerous! help

hey guys, my cj5 steers too easy! meaning i could nudge the steering wheel and it takes about a turn and a half without recovering. if i where to turn it and give it some gas, it'll stay that way even if i let go of the wheel. I really have no clue what it could be. maybe the powersteering box? it seems pretty dangerous to be driving around going 75 in it and having such a delicate handle. any help is appreciated.

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post #2 of 49 Old 07-07-2013, 04:37 PM
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To help diagnose something like that we really need a little more info. Was an engine swap done where there was a more powerful steering pump or more fluid flow? Steering box swap to a variable ratio?
Is there a huge shackle lift or spring lift that changed the caster angle?
Also, for the not returning to center thing, I would check for stiff ball joints and binding linkages. Front jackstands with wheels off and disconnect at pitman arm. Cycle back and forth for resistance

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post #3 of 49 Old 07-07-2013, 04:51 PM
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Need to see some pictures to see all the mods done as lift etc
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post #4 of 49 Old 07-07-2013, 06:30 PM
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I suspect your castor is way off take it to have the front end aligned and they will tell you what your castor is.
You will either need to cut and re-weld the spring perches or get shims to correct.
If you go the shim route get steel ones the aluminum wont hold up at all.
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post #5 of 49 Old 07-07-2013, 06:32 PM
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Toe-in can also be a big cause too.
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post #6 of 49 Old 07-08-2013, 09:48 AM
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X2 Caster. You need about 6*.

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post #7 of 49 Old 07-08-2013, 12:49 PM
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I would guess that you either don't have enough positive caster or your steering arms on your knuckles are too long or your pitman arm is too short.
If you have a factory front axle then you have stock knuckles. It is not likely that your pitman arm was changed either. But you could easily have too little caster.
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Need to see some pictures to see all the mods done as lift etc
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ill have some pics up for you by monday!
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I would guess that you either don't have enough positive caster or your steering arms on your knuckles are too long or your pitman arm is too short.
If you have a factory front axle then you have stock knuckles. It is not likely that your pitman arm was changed either. But you could easily have too little caster.
yeah man after doing some research i think it may be the caster angle! i get my jeep back from my dad on monday, ill take some pics of it and show you
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I would guess that you either don't have enough positive caster or your steering arms on your knuckles are too long or your pitman arm is too short.
If you have a factory front axle then you have stock knuckles. It is not likely that your pitman arm was changed either. But you could easily have too little caster.
i think it might be the caster angle buddy
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post #11 of 49 Old 07-09-2013, 08:37 AM
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75 mph in a CJ5

I do not think you should ever drive 75 mph in a cj5, just my two cents!!!!!

but then what would I know: I am just a old fart that has lived a long time and driven a jeep for many years.

they are great vehicles for the woods, hills and other wild country.

but with the short wheel base and big tires, makes them a bit unstable at highway speeds.

good luck and be safe,

guess you have heard the other term used to describe a CJ5

"Widow Maker"
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post #12 of 49 Old 07-09-2013, 08:43 AM
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toe in will correct a lot of problems. 75 MPH in a cj-5. not good but then i remember doing 80 MPH in my old 55 M38A1, did it once and never again, handled perfect but then it only take one little problem to go dead.
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You guys asking for pictures to determine lift, caster, etc. must have some highly calibrated eyeballs.

The OP could actually just tell us if it has lift, how much, etc.
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post #14 of 49 Old 07-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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You guys asking for pictures to determine lift, caster, etc. must have some highly calibrated eyeballs.

The OP could actually just tell us if it has lift, how much, etc.
This^^^^

Also need to know if it is a stock steering gear and pump?

Did it just happen out of the blue or after something was changed?


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post #15 of 49 Old 07-09-2013, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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This^^^^

Also need to know if it is a stock steering gear and pump?

Did it just happen out of the blue or after something was changed?
thing is that its a handmedown from my old man thats been sitting in a garage for years and years. i dont know much about the jeep. i get it back on monday and maybe you guys could lend me a hand with this stuff!
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