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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:04 AM   #1
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Steering Not Responsive.

So, after buying the CJ I had to drive it home and found a few issues that I really need to jump on pretty quick.

One of the problems is that the steering is not very responsive, I have to almost turn the wheel a quarter turn before getting any response.

This might sound like a dumb question but is that normal for a CJ7 or is there something I should be looking at to correct the poor response?

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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:20 AM   #2
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Get the front end up on jack stands, and have a friend turn the wheel back and forth while you take a look underneath. Should be pretty quick to observe the relative motion of things, and if anything is loose. Grab the tires and give them a wiggle too. And particularly, take a look at where the steering box is mounted to the frame. That area will crack sometimes.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:23 AM   #3
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No, that isn't right, there should be minimal slop in the wheel.

Basically I use a second person turning the wheel side to side and then I start looking at the first u-joint at the firewall on the column, then the second one at the bottom, then the pitman arm, then the tie rod ends for slop.

You may have a few places that need replacing.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM   #4
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Mine had a lot of slop in the manual gear box - you could watch the pitman shaft move up/down when you turned the wheel. Adjusted it to where I had only 3" side-to-side of the steering wheel compared to the 1/4 that was in it before. Then when I got the power steering installed the newer box was nice and tight, so I'd over-correct and swerve a lot. Surprised I didn't get pulled over that night!
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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:48 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input. I kinda figured that might be the case but wanted to make sure that it wasn't designed that way. You know, designed to allow some slip when offroading. Now I will definitely get under there to check it out.

Don't want to go so long that I start to over steer after I get it fixed lol...
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Unread 10-23-2009, 06:04 PM   #6
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I'm betting it's the stock steering box brackets. Mine was so worn out the steering box moved almost 1" from side to side before the wheels would start turning.

I ended up getting one of those heavy duty aftermarket ones made out of 3/8" steel.. best money I ever spent. Not only is it 10x stronger, it was 10x easier to install than the factory brackets..
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Unread 10-23-2009, 08:25 PM   #7
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Yeah, after watching mine flex as I was watching the new p/s system work, I'm thinknig I'll be doing some upgrades on the bracketry and maybe one of those supports that reach across to the other frame rail from the box.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:05 PM   #8
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Check the "universal joint" on the steering shaft as well. This is most likely another area of slop
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