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post #16 of 25 Old 08-20-2011, 08:15 PM
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Man you guys have him going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have someone turn the wheel while you look, listen and feel for the noise then you will find your problem. Simple It's not rocket science

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post #17 of 25 Old 08-21-2011, 02:23 AM
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Man you guys have him going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have someone turn the wheel while you look, listen and feel for the noise then you will find your problem. Simple It's not rocket science
It's not always that easy. Ball joints in the steering knuckles can be hard to pinpoint but moving the brake rotors back and forth can be done whether you have power or manual steering. Axle U-joints in the steering knuckles are easy to determine if they are defective just by turning the steering wheel either to the left or right until it stops. Crawl underneath and spin the axle shafts by hand while the wheel is turned. This method puts the U-joint at an angle so as you spin the axle, the U-joint needs to go through its motions. Just make sure your hubs are unlocked or are in the 4x2 position while checking U-joints.

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Man you guys have him going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have someone turn the wheel while you look, listen and feel for the noise then you will find your problem. Simple It's not rocket science
I understand what you mean. However, this is an intermittent issue. It sometimes happens and sometimes doesn't. That's what's making it hard to diagnose.

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post #19 of 25 Old 08-29-2011, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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UPDATE:

I was trying to diagnose the issue and bent the tie rod and steering stabilizer in the process.

Is it a difficult job for a non-mechanic like me to replace these items? It seems pretty straight forward (remove and replace with hand tools). Replacing the ball joints/axle u-joints is more than likely beyond my skill level. I would probably have to bring it to a shop for this.

Finally, I imagine an alignment would be necessary after replacing any or all of these items (tie rod,steering stabilizer, ball joints, axle u-joint)? Is this correct?

Again, thanks for all the help.

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post #20 of 25 Old 09-04-2011, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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UPDATE:

I replaced the tie rod and removed the steering stabilizer yesterday. Not too difficult.

It definitely needs an alignment! Dropping it off first thing Tuesday morning for that.

keith460-While I had it up after replacing the tie rod, I did as you explained earlier and felt no resistance/popping. Things moved smoothly, but stiff/solid, not sloppy. Is that normal?

One additional question: Do I have to use a steering sabilizer or is it just personal preference? I have a 2.5" lift and do very little off roading.

Thanks again for all the help.

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... While I had it up after replacing the tie rod, I did as you explained earlier and felt no resistance/popping. Things moved smoothly, but stiff/solid, not sloppy. Is that normal?
Yes. The parts should move freely with a little resistance.

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... Do I have to use a steering sabilizer or is it just personal preference? I have a 2.5" lift and do very little off roading.
No, you don't need a steering stabilizer. It will help damp unwanted steering input from bump steer if your drag link angle is fairly steep.

Vibration? Bump steer? Wandering? Read the article (sticky) on Steering, suspension, and driveline.
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post #22 of 25 Old 09-04-2011, 06:41 PM
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my Scrambler has symptoms similar to what sycjkcj7 and keith460 described.

My issue is intermittent, when steering is close to on center, at lowers speeds, and after I have been driving for 10+ minutes.

I took the prior advise, put it up on jack stands & took the wheels off. It took a decent amount of effort to turn the rotors on the joints. I didn't hear any popping or other noises.

The tie rods, and other external parts don't appear to be binding.

I am wondering if it should have taken that much effort to turn the joints w/the rotors. Or, could it be the power steering box?

thanks in advance
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post #23 of 25 Old 09-12-2011, 12:14 PM Thread Starter
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UPDATE/SOLUTION:

I hope this doesn't jinx it; I think I've found a solution.

I removed the old tie rod and steering stabilizer. I installed a tie rod from an '86 CJ. I did not install a new steering stabilizer. I greased all the fittings and got it aligned. The whole job cost $100 ($25 for the tie rod and $75 for the alignment).

I haven't had any of the symptoms since completing the repairs.

Thanks for all the input and help, JF!


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post #24 of 25 Old 09-12-2011, 02:08 PM
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Man you guys have him going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have someone turn the wheel while you look, listen and feel for the noise then you will find your problem. Simple It's not rocket science
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When you find out where the pop is coming from you'll know. You need to recreate the condition when somone is in a position to detect the sound.
I was going to say, just find a small friend, ha ha.. and tie him under the front, go out and drive it and make some turns so he can tell you where its coming from... but don't tell him I said that.. ha

I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his JEEP!...
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post #25 of 25 Old 09-12-2011, 02:23 PM
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I had this going on for awhile. All I did was adjust my steering column, found out it was making mine bind up every now and then. Just givin my suggestion might not fix your problem, but its worth a shot!
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