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post #1 of 13 Old 05-24-2009, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Steering issue...Power Steering seems too good!!

On my 76 CJ5 the steering seems very...I mean very easy to turn. There is no play in the wheel. IMO at over 35mph it is unsafe. How do I make it more difficult to turn the wheels?? So I can keep it straight easier..

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post #2 of 13 Old 05-24-2009, 11:50 AM
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Do you have a lift? If so, what kind? Assuming your base steering and suspension components are in good shape it could be a caster issue. Lack of positive caster will make the steering very easy and make the Jeep darty while driving. This gets worse with increased speed.

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Yeah it has a 4 " suspension lift on 35's.
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You need to make sure the caster is ok - wrong caster will allow it to drift easily.

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You will need to check your toe-in alignment too.

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The adjustable sleeve bolts on the tie end rod were loose letting the tie end rod to rotate freely. Tightened the bolts down and now I can drive one handed without having to change my underwear!!!
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Power Steering discussion & trouble shooting

Timely topic for me. I just finished rebuilding a 1980 CJ5. It has power steering and it's also too lively...widow-maker lively. Great forum answers on where to start troubleshooting. My question: both power & non-power steering gear boxes are available (NAPA). I've had two jeeps prior without P/S and liked them a lot(lots of off-road in MT-all seasons). Does AMC Jeep P/S always have this "no feel for the road" lightness? My CJ5 is stock w/stock tire and wheel sizes. Am I old-school or should I try to get this P/S system sorted out and use it?
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The adjustable sleeve bolts on the tie end rod were loose letting the tie end rod to rotate freely. Tightened the bolts down and now I can drive one handed without having to change my underwear!!!

Glad you found the problem. Did you just tighten your bolts down? Or did you check your toe-in alignment before you tightened them? If not, then you probably don't have a correct alignment which will affect your steering.

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I tightened them down just to be able to get it somewhere to get an alignment done on it...I've read a lot of topics on it but still confuses me. I could rebuild a motor and a lot of other stuff but alignment stuff is like foreign language. Got any step by step instructions with pictures? LOL!
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thats the way the PS is in a CJ very quick a lot quicker then a old car

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I tightened them down just to be able to get it somewhere to get an alignment done on it...I've read a lot of topics on it but still confuses me. I could rebuild a motor and a lot of other stuff but alignment stuff is like foreign language. Got any step by step instructions with pictures? LOL!

Sure do!

http://www.4x4xplor.com/alignment.html

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post #12 of 13 Old 05-25-2009, 07:31 AM
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From a totally different direction;
I have run across several jeeps with retrofitted power steering that felt like they had no linkage to the wheels (very easy to turn/would turn a corner if you sneezed wrong). These all had quick Saginaw boxes and several had pumps from Cadillacs (one of the higher pressure GM pumps).
The fixes for these were to retrofit a slower box and lower pressure pump.

Try all the other suggested fixes first (verification of caster angle is very important and most likely involved in your issue). This fix has a relatively low probability.

Enjoy!

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Thanks for the link..Seems simple enough.
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