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post #1 of 16 Old 04-13-2013, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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Steering Box Switch

I'm getting ready to pull the manual steering box to change everything over to power steering. Any recommendations or things I should & shouldn't do before I start extracting those bolts? Looking for any input here!


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Get a H1 steering box. Replace your steering shaft from the column to the box with a Borgeson (the connector needs to be changed at the box anyway, power and manual are different.)

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/th...1-box-1478332/

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Get a H1 steering box. Replace your steering shaft from the column to the box with a Borgeson (the connector needs to be changed at the box anyway, power and manual are different.)

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/th...1-box-1478332/
Actually have a new AGR box, Borgeson shaft & AGR pump. Just want to see if anybody has tips on the conversion.

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J20 box works nice as well.

Tips and tricks? Use alot of penetrating oil, hope you don't find a spinning nut in the frame when you go to dissemble. The original fasteners that attach the steering box to bracket were external torx on mine, might be on yours too. You might need some sockets for those if you don't already have. With the old box out it's a good time to check for cracks, do a good visual inspection. That's all I have, I remember it being pretty straightforward.
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J20 box works nice as well.

Tips and tricks? Use alot of penetrating oil, hope you don't find a spinning nut in the frame when you go to dissemble. The original fasteners that attach the steering box to bracket were external torx on mine, might be on yours too. You might need some sockets for those if you don't already have. With the old box out it's a good time to check for cracks, do a good visual inspection. That's all I have, I remember it being pretty straightforward.

Looks like mine are regular hex bolts. I'm soaking them down right now with penetrating oil. I will do that for the next 2 weeks while I finish my other projects. Hopefully I don't twist one of those off.

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Another concern are the bolts in the frame. Those screw into nuts welded up inside the frame. Those welds corrode and break when you try to take out the bolts. I got lucky, I hope you do too. Go easy on em'. That's a good idea to let the oil soak in.
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Another concern are the bolts in the frame. Those screw into nuts welded up inside the frame. Those welds corrode and break when you try to take out the bolts. I got lucky, I hope you do too. Go easy on em'. That's a good idea to let the oil soak in.
Do I dare use an impact wrench?

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I recommend no. That will most certainly snap the welds if they are close to being gone anyhow. When I did mine I used hand tools and I went slooooww. Use a cheater bar for leverage. If you get lucky and the welds don't shear then you can celebrate. If you are unlucky, then the welds shear and the nut sits and spins, or a bolt breaks off. I hope it goes well for you.
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I recommend no. That will most certainly snap the welds if they are close to being gone anyhow. When I did mine I used hand tools and I went slooooww. Use a cheater bar for leverage. If you get lucky and the welds don't shear then you can celebrate. If you are unlucky, then the welds shear and the nut sits and spins, or a bolt breaks off. I hope it goes well for you.
Thanks, Im gonna soak the Sh*t out of those bolts and hope for the best. I appreciate your input.

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Try to tighten them a little before backing them out. I have had good luck getting old bolts out by doing that. Also, an impact gun on the low setting will sometimes work better than a high torque twist from a ratchet.

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^^^^ Also what he said ^^^^

I forgot about tightening them a little first, helps break the bond - excellent suggestion, as usual
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Take your bumper off and soak the threads from the inside.

I usually break out the gas torch and heat the beejeebers out of the bolts.

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I'm getting ready to pull the manual steering box to change everything over to power steering. Any recommendations or things I should & shouldn't do before I start extracting those bolts? Looking for any input here!
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What they ^ said is about all you can do. Cross your fingers and hope for the best. Good luck.

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Thanks for the input guys. I will post up when I get done.

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Hey Pirate40,

I know this was a year ago, but how did it go? I'm going through the same thing now, but I wasn't smart enough to ask for suggestions from guys here


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