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Unread 01-06-2014, 07:19 AM   #31
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I have not been able to address this issue fully yet because of other more urgent repairs. However i did notice that the sloppiness that I feel at the steering wheel is also felt at the steering shaft. I can turn it by hand in either direction about 1-1.5 inches.

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Unread 01-06-2014, 11:06 AM   #32
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turk,

Sloppy steering is usually due to worn steering components, or alignment problems (ie: lack of caster).


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From what I have read, not based off personal experience at all, I would be checking for caster angle. A set of castor shims are not expensive or large, and could be the root of your issue.

Is there a shop you could have the caster measured?
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Unread 01-06-2014, 12:06 PM   #33
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I was under the impression that if the caster angle was off, the jeeps drivability would be sloppy. It drives perfectly straight even if I hit a pot hole. Would the angle effect 2-3 inches of play in the steering wheel before the wheels turn.

Is there anything I can check inside the steering column? If so is it possible to remove the plastic covering without removing the steering wheel assembly?
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Unread 01-06-2014, 12:26 PM   #34
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No, caster has nothing to do with play or slop.

You have access to the parts to see where the slop is. It might take someone turning the wheel and you watching the parts. We can guess all day long on the internet where the slop might be, but there's no substitute for actually looking at it while the pieces and parts are moving to determine exactly what it's related to.
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Unread 01-06-2014, 01:06 PM   #35
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I have not been able to address this issue fully yet because of other more urgent repairs. However i did notice that the sloppiness that I feel at the steering wheel is also felt at the steering shaft. I can turn it by hand in either direction about 1-1.5 inches.
I think you've answered your own question.

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Unread 01-06-2014, 03:19 PM   #36
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I need a garage so I can work on these things at night. Only so much daylight between work and family lol.
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Unread 01-17-2014, 02:30 AM   #37
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I'm back on this issue. It's not horrible so I had pit it off. The slack is coming from inside the steering box. Does this mean I need a new box or can it be adjusted/replaced?
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Unread 01-17-2014, 07:46 AM   #38
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Do a search on CJ H1 steering box upgrade. I did the swap and it was totally worth it. Swapping out the steering box isn't overly complicated. Just put aside a day(after you get the new steering box) to do it. Took me about 3 hours with multiple beer breaks.
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Unread 01-17-2014, 08:17 AM   #39
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Make sure you check the coupling on the shaft as it goes into the box. These parts are junk, and fail very often. Your slop could be a combination of this and the box.

I too did the H1 steering box swap. It is probably the best improvement I have made on the jeep. It's not that difficult to do, but be prepared to put some force behind breaking the pitman shaft nut. If memory serves, the torque spec is 185 ft-lbs. + rust equals lots of force to get it off. Hopefully you have access to air tools. I ended up have to use a pipe wrench and 6 foot cheater bar to break mine free. Definitely want to pre-soak with something to make your life easier.
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Unread 01-17-2014, 10:48 AM   #40
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Everything seems solid all the way into the steering box. As much as I'd love to do a H1 upgrade, it's almost impossible. The H1 is even more rare here then Jeeps. I guess talking to a local off road mechanic and seeing what he recommends as am upgrade with local parts
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Unread 01-18-2014, 08:31 AM   #41
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Did you ever check the tie rod ends?
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Unread 01-18-2014, 09:14 AM   #42
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I did and there is no slack. They are old and dirty but other than that they are fine.
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Unread 02-02-2014, 08:53 AM   #43
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Not happy with my turning radius I did some digging around the forum and it turns out my pitman arm can be the problem. I am now thinking this may also be the the issue for my slack.

I measured my pitman arm an it's 7.5 inches. There does seem to be a few inches of lift on the jeep. I believe it's from aftermarket leaf springs. Body mounts are stock height as are the shackles.

What would be the reason for a 7.5in pitman arm? What should be my next step in figuring out if I need a stock pitman arm or a drop pitman arm?
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Unread 02-02-2014, 08:58 AM   #44
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What are you thinking the measurement should be? I don't recall what the stock measurement is from hole to hole.

The pitman can't be the source of your slop. It's a solid piece of steel with no moving part for slop to develop in.
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Unread 02-02-2014, 09:23 AM   #45
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Should be 6.5 I believe
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