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post #151 of 462 Old 05-01-2013, 07:40 PM
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ROFLCOPTER Easily the most accurate and succinct response to the type of overthinking my father and I are famous for. However, it's this quality of work that makes Joe-garage stand in awe over the stuff that S76 puts together.

Dad - I'm with you that the bolt/sleeve shoudln't move, but that the sleeve/bushing should be your pivot.

In my mind, there's the eyelet of the spring that the bushing goes in, sooo...if someone offered a bushing with a grooved outside diameter, couldn't you drill/tap your spring and put a zerk fitting in it?

http://www.jegs.com/p/Lakewood/Lakew...44075/10002/-1

If you go to that link you can select a picture of the end of the arm - it shows the zerk fitting. My exact idea...ripped off from the LCAs I had on the IROC. lol

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post #152 of 462 Old 05-01-2013, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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ROFLCOPTER Easily the most accurate and succinct response to the type of overthinking my father and I are famous for. However, it's this quality of work that makes Joe-garage stand in awe over the stuff that S76 puts together.

Dad - I'm with you that the bolt/sleeve shoudln't move, but that the sleeve/bushing should be your pivot.

In my mind, there's the eyelet of the spring that the bushing goes in, sooo...if someone offered a bushing with a grooved outside diameter, couldn't you drill/tap your spring and put a zerk fitting in it?

http://www.jegs.com/p/Lakewood/Lakew...44075/10002/-1

If you go to that link you can select a picture of the end of the arm - it shows the zerk fitting. My exact idea...ripped off from the LCAs I had on the IROC. lol
Hold that thought boy, your not far off. Now I can tell the rest of the story......but first..

If you always do what you've always done. You will always get what you've always got.
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post #153 of 462 Old 05-01-2013, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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Firemanjim7,

You hit the nail on the head. Here is where my handle comes from.

This is a Sikorsky S-76 helicopter I work on. (Been working on these for the past 35 years)





Here are some pictures of a routine, yearly inspection. I love it when it is all in pieces.









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post #154 of 462 Old 05-01-2013, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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OK. Back to the Shackles:

I got these shackle hangars that I really like from Rocky Road. They have a gease fitting to "back grease" the bushings just like you mentioned tp355z. (Ty)

And the pivot point is 1" further from the frame rail than stock so there is another 1/2" of total lift.





But Ty, I wouldn't drill and tap a grease fitting into the spring eye because it is made out of some kind of hard metal like......uh.......spring steel. You could drill it but I would be afraid of a crack originating at the hole. As it is they shot peen one side of each spring leaf for stress relief and crack supression. You don't wanna mess with them.

So then Rocky Road sends these kits to install the springs. This is just nuts!!!!!!


I get 6 big bolts that are grade 8 which is good, and six smaller bolts that are grade 8 but they are all METRIC! REALLY? And a mish mash of spacers, some short with big holes in them and some longer with smaller holes in them.





Now, the big bolts fit the factory holes on the frame for the springs fixed end perfectly. (Don't know why, because they are metric) But the big bolt will only fit through the short sleeve which is not long enough for that attach point.









In any event, I have 12 bolts. 6 big and 6 smaller. Each spring needs 4 bolts counting the one that goes in the middle of the shackle for support and all the shackle holes fit the big bolts perfectly so why I even have the 6 smaller bolts I have no clue.


Soooooooooooo..... I called Rocky Road and have a bunch more hardware and sleeves coming. Then I can drill them all for grease fittings and maybe move on to something else.


Just think, if shackles are this confusing to me how will I ever get driveshaft angles done?????

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You may want to try RC jeeps instead. Easier to work on and cheaper!
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You may want to try RC jeeps instead. Easier to work on and cheaper!
LOL. Yeah, why didn't you think of that before I started the ful size version.

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Firemanjim7,

You hit the nail on the head. Here is where my handle comes from.

This is a Sikorsky S-76 helicopter I work on. (Been working on these for the past 35 years)

Here are some pictures of a routine, yearly inspection. I love it when it is all in pieces.
Thanks for sharing! My brother-in-law flies one of those. Once mechanic, now pilot. I'm not a fan of flying, but enjoy seeing them.
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post #158 of 462 Old 05-02-2013, 10:12 AM Thread Starter
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Ramblin. Good for him. He must be flying either for a Corporate operator, Medivac, or Offshore oil. Since you are from Texas I'm guessing offshore. ??????



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Ramblin. Good for him. He must be flying either for a Corporate operator, Medivac, or Offshore oil. Since you are from Texas I'm guessing offshore. ??????
Ha! You got it right down to the company and everything with that pic. He's living in CO and works out of LA. He's starting to fly the AW-139 currently.
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post #160 of 462 Old 05-02-2013, 08:11 PM
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That is just freakin sick! No oil stains. Not even a single screwdriver left laying around! HOW, Man!?!? I can't DO IT!!!! Now I'm ashamed...

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That is just freakin sick! No oil stains. Not even a single screwdriver left laying around! HOW, Man!?!? I can't DO IT!!!! Now I'm ashamed...
Ha! That's nothing. Tomorrow I'll get you some even more over the top pics.

But in the meantime understand one thing, this is my work bench at home:



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post #162 of 462 Old 05-03-2013, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
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This ones for you Skerr:

This is the tool control program we have at work. It's not a good day when you leave a tool in an aircraft. So to prevent that from happening this is how it works.


Every tool box has a plastic plate on the front. When you open your tool box you flip the plate to read:






At the end of the shift you do a complete inventory of all the tools to make sure they are all accounted for and when that is complete you turn the plate back to read:






At the shift end someone checks all the tool boxes and cabinets to ensure all the plates read "Audit Complete."




Now, to make the audit process easier, faster, and fool proof all of the tool drawers look like this:









And if any tools are missing, (and every single thing has a spot right down to a pencil), it is easy to spot them because there is yellow foam under the blue foam and it shows up easily like this:





Neat Huh?


And yet my workbench at home still looks like:




And it's not likely to change.

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That's pretty impressive. I can imagine your actual work day is only about 3 or 4 hours long, because you have to spend the remaining hours looking for the tools you laid down! At least, that's pretty much how it works for me! j/k

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post #164 of 462 Old 05-04-2013, 07:41 AM
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And yet my workbench at home still looks like:

And it's not likely to change.
I don't see a problem with that bench at all. When I get home next week I'll post up a pic of my cluster-f of a bench. I clean the damn thing every couple weeks and yet somehow it always looks like the tool fairy took a big steaming dump on it.

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Back on course here................

Last week I got this pair of axles from dechlin.





And today I got around to breaking them down. The front was easy. But I was concerned about getting the hubs off the rear axles. All I had was a cheap Harbor Freight 3 jaw puller...........and a torch! I put the puller on and tightened it up and proceeded to heat the hub. After a few minutes it popped right onto the floor puller and all. Awesome!

But then I noticed the key way was sheared, and the axle was all gouged. This was a spun hub. Cool. I don't want it anyway. So I proceeded to the other side, set up the puller as tight as I could get it and started to heat the hub. It wouldn't budge until I heated it up about this much:





Then it came off no problem. I may have replace the axle seal as it got warmer than usual.

Lots of carnage after all this work:




Then the dreaded sand blast operation. Fogged up gogles, sand hitting me in the face, waiting for the poor old compressor to catch up. Wa Wa Wa! But finally it was done.





Now the mess in the driveway to clean up:




and a shower and we'll call it a day.

If you always do what you've always done. You will always get what you've always got.
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