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Unread 10-27-2010, 10:55 AM   #1
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Which starter for a 164 Tooth Flywheel?

Got a 258 mated to a t150. Starter was failing to engage, grinding. Bell housing had a big crack in it near the starter so figured that wasn't helping so it's being replaced but in the process I learned that there were several models of started for this application and that there is a "correct" starter to use with each specific tooth count on the flywheel. Mine has 164 teeth. Anyone have a recomendation on which model started to use? Second question is, since the ring gear is pretty chewed up and the starter seems ok (was recently replaced) should I select a ring gear based on that model of starter instead?

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Unread 10-27-2010, 06:00 PM   #2
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164 teeth is the standard tooth count for an AMC L6 or V8, you should be able to use the starter you have all ready. Do you take the Jeep out wheeling much? If you do, think about getting a 2 to 1 starter. If you kill the motor on a steep hill, you can leave it in 1st gear 4-low and start it with the clutch out and take right off without spinning or frying the clutch.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 07:47 PM   #3
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right now i have the jeep in a garage in Brooklyn. hope to build a reliable truck out of it form soem off road but nothing over the top. dirt roads and some water crossing and lots of snow. more of a practical woods and snow truck than anything. I'm finding a LOT of conflicting info on starters though. It seems that there were different ones made for the 157 and 164 tooth flywheels and that most aftermarket reman. shops don't differentiate between them. Example: auto zone has a single part number listed for the 79 cj7 and its the one i have, thing is that starter was in my jeep and ate a flywheel. was that because there was a small crack int he bell housing or because its not actually the right part? After 10 years of shade tree mechanics if there is one thign i have learned its not to trust autozone, but i can't find solid info anywhere that lays out what starter goes with what flywheel/bell housing combo with any certainty. maybe i am over-thinking this but...
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Unread 10-28-2010, 10:30 PM   #4
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What you need is an AMC starter from 72-86 for the 6 or 8 cylinder

Baseline 4x4

That ones pricey because it's new and there's a core charge I'm sure

Summit Racing

Much cheaper

4wheel drive hardware

That's an Omix-Ada. All these sites are great places to get parts from
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Unread 10-29-2010, 05:13 AM   #5
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excellent! Many thanks Flashhawk, that does clear it up.
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Unread 10-29-2010, 07:12 AM   #6
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i have good luck with NAPA starters
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Unread 01-08-2011, 03:27 PM   #7
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ok, this problem is solved. new flywheel ring gear and the old starter mesh perfectly and the truck turns over with no grinding. Now no spark that on another thread. Thanks!
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