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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:20 AM   #1
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Spring over

was told by a stranger I could do a spring over ot get a bit more height on my 78 cj, no clue what that is or how to do it. Does it work to get a bit more height?

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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:25 AM   #2
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It nets about 5" of lift, isn't the easiest to make work on a CJ5 and to do it right can cost as much or more than a regular lift kit.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:27 AM   #3
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It nets about 5" of lift, isn't the easiest to make work on a CJ5 and to do it right can cost as much or more than a regular lift kit.
he didnt mention that, thanks.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:38 AM   #4
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If you only want a bit more height you'd be better off with a quality 2.5" lift kit.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:40 AM   #5
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A spring over refers to installing your springs from the standard location under the axle to sit on top of the axle. It will give you height but there are other things that will need to be adjusted to ensure your rig runs like it ought to. The PO of my CJ7 did a spring over (SOA) and didn't adjust the pinion angle right which caused me to break u-bolts and joints like crazy last weekend at Moab. I didn't realize it was that bad before I went down and broke 5+ ubolts when I got on some steep inclines. Search for SOA and read up about it before you jump into it. It can be a really cheap way to get lift but in all honesty unless you do it right you rig will break or drive like garbage.

My springs are toast and I am pretty much decided to go back to SUA with a 2.5" or so lift. I need to look into it more but I know that you can put YJ springs on a CJ with a little work and they aren't very expensive. I think they are about $120 or so per spring.

EDIT: looks like I was too slow in my response.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 10:42 AM   #6
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They flex better and ride better than a high arch leaf spring kit. They offer a lot more ground clearance under the axles. That being said, unless you have some fabrication and welding experience, don't attempt it. There are many factors to consider. Front caster angle, rear pinion angle (will require a DC rear driveshaft) etc. I did mine in 11hrs start to finish, but I had been a welder/fabricator for years at that point. If you do the work yourself, you can come in under what a lift kit will cost. Plan on purchasing a drop pittman arm. Consider fabricating a torque arm for the rear axle.

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Unread 06-03-2013, 08:09 PM   #7
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Did mine not long ago and love it!
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Unread 06-03-2013, 08:57 PM   #8
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Is this on NTs? If so do you have an overall pic?

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They flex better and ride better than a high arch leaf spring kit. They offer a lot more ground clearance under the axles. That being said, unless you have some fabrication and welding experience, don't attempt it. There are many factors to consider. Front caster angle, rear pinion angle (will require a DC rear driveshaft) etc. I did mine in 11hrs start to finish, but I had been a welder/fabricator for years at that point. If you do the work yourself, you can come in under what a lift kit will cost. Plan on purchasing a drop pittman arm. Consider fabricating a torque arm for the rear axle.

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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:06 PM   #9
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Is this on NTs? If so do you have an overall pic?
Mine are!
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:36 PM   #10
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Wide trac axles
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Unread 06-03-2013, 09:47 PM   #11
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They flex better and ride better than a high arch leaf spring kit. They offer a lot more ground clearance under the axles. That being said, unless you have some fabrication and welding experience, don't attempt it. There are many factors to consider. Front caster angle, rear pinion angle (will require a DC rear driveshaft) etc. I did mine in 11hrs start to finish, but I had been a welder/fabricator for years at that point. If you do the work yourself, you can come in under what a lift kit will cost. Plan on purchasing a drop pittman arm. Consider fabricating a torque arm for the rear axle.

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What type springs are those? Also, where did you connect your torque arm to(jeep side)?
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Unread 06-03-2013, 11:15 PM   #12
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Stock CJ springs. The torque arm is attached to the cross member by the T-case with a shackle. Ill post pics when I get home.
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Unread 06-03-2013, 11:35 PM   #13
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was told by a stranger I could do a spring over ot get a bit more height on my 78 cj, no clue what that is or how to do it. Does it work to get a bit more height?
Do yourself a favor......don't just read this - study it til your eyes bleed.

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Unread 06-03-2013, 11:57 PM   #14
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Upper mount.

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Unread 06-04-2013, 08:51 AM   #15
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Upper mount.


Does the shackle hit your transfer case at all?
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