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Unread 05-27-2008, 12:46 PM   #61
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Awesome job guys! Looks like a new project for my '81 CJ-7 HURRY UP PAYDAY!!!

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Unread 05-27-2008, 01:29 PM   #62
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Glad it turned out, and it looks great. Can you please let everyone know how truly easy it was to perform the whole process. There are a lot of people who don't think they should take a task like this on.

The hardest part is getting it ready to spray. Spraying is a snooze.
This really was pretty easy. There is some time getting everything prepped properly but you can do it in a weekend. I used a wire brush attachment on my drill for roughing up the surface and then it was just a matter of getting everything masked off. Other than that, it's just having patience letting it dry completely and making sure everything is covered. I have a few spots that didn't get coated quite enough but I have an extra bottle I will use to touch it all up.
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Unread 05-30-2008, 07:54 AM   #63
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Will lacquer thinner work as a degreaser? I have a 30 year old CJ and there is a lot of crud/ grease, oil etc... especially in the corners. I was going to sandblast the inside, not real hard, just enough to roughen up the surface and get some of the crud out. Then vacuum and wipe it all down with Lacquer thinner. The instructions in the kit aren't very informative about proper prepping so I could really use some advice from some of you who have done this. I would like to prep today and shoot tomorrow so I appreciate some quick advice.
I can't seem to get the seat belt brackets out either, they are really frozen in there. I need to remove them as I am installing 4 point harnesses, I have soaked them for a week in PB blaster, each night I spray some more and hit with a hammer. I am now thinking about a propane torch to heat them up. Any other ideas?? I appreciate any and all help and advice.
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Unread 05-30-2008, 07:56 AM   #64
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One more thing, what do y'all use to clean this stuff up? It says to use gun wash?????? Will lacquer thinner cut it? Did anyone have to reduce it to spray correctly, or just add the catalyst, shake and spray?
Also my son has sanded some of the tub down to bare metal with my sander, the directions say to use a metal etcher on bare metal, is this really needed? Would the metal etcher that Por 15 uses be the same stuff?
Thanks again for the help.
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Unread 05-30-2008, 08:44 AM   #65
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In prepping my tub I vacuumed it all out then used a decent detergent and scrubbed it all out with a brush. Then I hosed it all out and dried it. I then scuffed it with a wire brush attachment on my cordless drill and sandpaper for the hard to reach areas. After scuffing, I vacuumed it all out again. Now you should just be able to hit it with lacquer thinner of some other grease/wax remover. I used a grease/wax remover that I got from the same place as my raptor kit. You can get it at just about any paint store. After that, just mask and spray. It does not need to be thinned to spray, just fill, shake and shoot like the instructions say. Super easy to spray. I had some places where my paint had worn off and the metal was exposed but it looked to me like it was plenty etched as it was so I just sprayed directly over it. Lacquer thinner works great for cleaning the gun and cleaning any off yourself.

As far as the bolts go, you could try to get a longer piece of pipe over the handle of your ratchet to get a bit more leverage to break them loose.

Hope this helps!
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Unread 05-30-2008, 04:02 PM   #66
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Thanks for the help. What kind of detergent did you use? Something like simple green, or Greased Lightning? Or did you use dish soap?

I got the bolts off, but I had to grind both sides so I could get a box wrench on the nut, impossible to apply that much torque with a torx head bolt, after I got the wrench on it, I laid the heat to it. After 30 years they didn't want to budge but I gotem!!

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Unread 05-30-2008, 08:09 PM   #67
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No problem! Simple green works fine, I used something like it, not sure what it was now. It helps to have an air compressor to blow out some of the water that will get in the corners. You do not want any water left in before you spray it.

Good job with the bolts, I know they are sticky sometimes.
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Unread 05-31-2008, 11:10 AM   #68
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more questions....

I've got a couple of questions too....

Has anyone tried to do a tinted version? and if so I'd love to see pics of different colors.

I noticed that it says your choice of hardner times It doesn't list what the choices are but what is the general concensus on whcih drying time to use? I'm thinking the quicker the better because you don't have to worry about debis getting into the coat before it dries but love to hear someone else say it
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Unread 05-31-2008, 10:38 PM   #69
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I've got a couple of questions too....

Has anyone tried to do a tinted version? and if so I'd love to see pics of different colors.

I noticed that it says your choice of hardner times It doesn't list what the choices are but what is the general concensus on whcih drying time to use? I'm thinking the quicker the better because you don't have to worry about debis getting into the coat before it dries but love to hear someone else say it
I would like to try to tint pack but haven't yet.
I used the STD mid temp catalyst in 90° heat and also at 60° with different humidity. It didn't seem to make much difference at all.

Someone above mentioned using laquer thinner to clean with. Laquer thinner is not designed to be used as a cleaner/degreaser. You truly want a solvent marked grease/wax/silicone remover. You can get a cheaper brand at WalMart called Prepsol for 13$ a gallon, or go to NAPA and buy the same stuff for twice that much.

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Unread 05-31-2008, 11:36 PM   #70
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Doesn't PrepSol have a warning on the can that it's only supposed to be sold to licensed shops? I've got a can but I don't know where it came from. It does work well. What about acetone?

I'm sold on this Raptor stuff btw, thanks for showing it turpehar.
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Unread 06-02-2008, 09:43 PM   #71
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Doesn't PrepSol have a warning on the can that it's only supposed to be sold to licensed shops? I've got a can but I don't know where it came from. It does work well. What about acetone?

I'm sold on this Raptor stuff btw, thanks for showing it turpehar.
Acetone will work as well.
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Unread 06-07-2008, 10:38 AM   #72
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For, all of you that have asked about the tintable bed liner I just finished spraying my 7 tub this mourning with the SEMS tintable bed liner kit. I prepped and taped everything last night and started spraying about 6:00 this mourning. I can't tell you how it is going to hold up but I will say it was exactly what i was looking for. Something smoother and easier to clean than herc. and color matched to my exterior. A jobber in the town i used to work in has sprayed a few trucks and his personel 7 with this stuff and he recommend using a qt. of color with a gallon on Liner. The color can't have any binder or clear, so Basecaot or single stage paint will not work. I have about $230 invested including product, paint paper and tape. It cleans up really well with laquer thinner and sprays a lot like undercoating. I preped using 180 grit cleaned with wax and grease remover and sprayed at 80psi. The texture can be varied with air pressure, gun speed and spray distance. I mixed everything 4.1.1 and it worked out grreat. One word of advise shoot this stuff when it is cool. The can recommends 70 degrees. It was about 72 when I started and 85 when I stopped and I was close getting the tape all pulled off and the golf tees out of the holes. If anyone wants I can email you some pics and you can post them up. I have been to lasy to lean how. I researched this product but could never find alot about it. I guess most people go with black. Hope this helps JC
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Unread 06-07-2008, 10:59 AM   #73
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I just wanted to say thanks for all your help, I ordered the U Pol and my son and I got it sprayed last Thurs. I sprayed the firewall with some textured rustoleum stuff as I didn't want the bedliner getting all over the wires and heater box. I wasn't sure if I would like the two tone look but it came out pretty cool and my son lowes it so that's all that matters. I used all 4 bottles and will be ordering a spare to have for touch up later. Again thanks for all who gave me advice.




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If anyone wants I can email you some pics and you can post them up. I have been to lasy to lean how. I researched this product but could never find alot about it. I guess most people go with black. Hope this helps JC
Sned those pics to hdturpen@yahoo.com and I'll post them for you.
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That turned out real nice. Update when you get it all back together.
I'm glad it worked out
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