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Unread 10-22-2010, 04:41 PM   #76
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Thanks Jim, I have spent a little bit of time on the body and am just getting frustrated, so this will be a good time to check the measurements!!!!!
You're welcome Bill and please do check them, to ere is human and I am very human!

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Unread 10-22-2010, 05:08 PM   #77
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Deadman, believe me, patient is something I'm not... determined, yes!!! I will not let this stupid thing beat me!!

So I started out today trying to build up the the layers of filler... only to get frustrated with it drying and solidifying too quickly.

I came in, responded to Jim's message and measured my JEep to find that our dashes are different widths, and I'm gonna have to go through Double D to get a dash... no biggy, and not much more expensive anyway.

I finally got a couple nice coats on and started sanding. I think I'm starting to understand why I was getting frustrated to begin with. I didn't have enough buildup to actually sand down to smooth things out, but I'm starting to get there...




A couple more coats and I'm there... unfortunately I'm done for the week.
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Unread 10-22-2010, 05:24 PM   #78
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When you finish mixing a batch of filler, take your spreader and apply a very thin coat pushing firmly on the surface. Make it so thin that you're basically trying to make the surface look wet, this helps ensure good adhesion. Then go back and build up a nice layer of the filler. Wait about 5 minutes and start checking the tackiness of the filler. You want to hit it with the 60 grit block sander right in between the point of it being tacky and rock hard. It will gum up your sand paper like crazy but your only trying to quickly get the main form and knock down the high spots. Then give it another few minutes to cure and get a bit harder before you finish sanding.

If you can time it just right you can really knock down the sanding time. If your waiting until it's hard before you ever touch it with the sand paper, you're easily tripling the amount of sanding time required.
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Unread 10-22-2010, 05:27 PM   #79
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When you finish mixing a batch of filler, take your spreader and apply a very thin coat pushing firmly on the surface. Make it so thin that you're basically trying to make the surface look wet, this helps ensure good adhesion. Then go back and build up a nice layer of the filler. Wait about 5 minutes and start checking the tackiness of the filler. You want to hit it with the 60 grit block sander right in between the point of it being tacky and rock hard. It will gum up your sand paper like crazy but your only trying to quickly get the main form and knock down the high spots. Then give it another few minutes to cure and get a bit harder before you finish sanding.

If you can time it just right you can really knock down the sanding time. If your waiting until it's hard before you ever touch it with the sand paper, you're easily tripling the amount of sanding time required.
Yeah, I started out waiting till it was hard, but my boss was telling me to knock it down first, like you said... that helped a lot!!! But it is still an art... I'm better with math!!!!

Thanks for the help!!!!!
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Unread 10-22-2010, 05:29 PM   #80
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Well it is already looking better and coming along nicely. Keep up the good work.
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Unread 10-22-2010, 08:29 PM   #81
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Thanks for the pics of the materials. Now I feel like I'm on the same page!
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Unread 10-22-2010, 09:48 PM   #82
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Bill you're almost there man!! That is looking great.
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Unread 10-22-2010, 10:17 PM   #83
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It is looking a lot better!
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Unread 10-22-2010, 11:04 PM   #84
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It is looking a lot better!
I agree nice work
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Unread 10-22-2010, 11:48 PM   #85
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keep it up you've got the hang of it.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:30 PM   #86
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So, I started investigating the little volcano that I didn't notice while I was doing the cutting and welding... nice spot of rusted support channel on the inside... oh well, it is too late for anything more than a cosmetic fix.I cut out a square and welded a piece in... the inside will probably rust through again in a couple years, but I'm soooo done!!!



I started the day with the idea of just removing all the filler I had so I could start over...




It actually turned out better than I expected, I think I will be done with most of this side tomorrow...




I am hoping to order some comp cut tube fender flairs from jeeptubes.com hopefully in the next week, but this body work is just killing me!!!

I have been thinking about taring into the TC and the Tranny, but I hate getting into something else while this is so unfinished!!!!

GO GIANTS!!!!!!!
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:39 PM   #87
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Hey Bill it's good to see you back at work. The side is shaping up very well. Why stop and start on something else though, you look like you're really gettting the hang of it and before you know it you'll have this part done.
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Unread 10-28-2010, 04:46 PM   #88
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Sometimes I just start pressing and things start screwing up, as I said before, I am not patient, so this slow build is killing me!!! My plan was to just get this thing running and flog the snot out of it, but I also wanted to make sure it wasn't going to fall apart if my wife decided to drive it to work...

I WANT TO BE DONE!!!
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Unread 10-28-2010, 08:24 PM   #89
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You want to hit it with the 60 grit block sander right in between the point of it being tacky and rock hard. It will gum up your sand paper like crazy but your only trying to quickly get the main form and knock down the high spots. Then give it another few minutes to cure and get a bit harder before you finish sanding.

If you can time it just right you can really knock down the sanding time. If your waiting until it's hard before you ever touch it with the sand paper, you're easily tripling the amount of sanding time required.
not that this is wrong, but if you want to cut down on sand paper they make a tool called a body file for this exact purpose. i think i got mine for less then $5 and it has certainly saved me a ton
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Unread 10-29-2010, 01:40 PM   #90
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Unfortunately this has been a short weekend for me and I didn't get as much done as I wanted!!! I feel like I'm posting the same pic over and over... and it feels like I'm at the same spot I was at when I posted the first pic!!! Uuuuuggggghhhhhhh!!!

Well here it is, I think I'm done... I will get some high yield next week and smooth it out.




The big ripple under the door is going to be covered with a rocker guard, so I really don't care about it anymore!!!
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