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post #1 of 585 Old 09-24-2010, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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Sonic's 74 CJ5--build???

Well, I have been working on this for a while, but I figured as much as other build posts have inspired me, I thought I would sit and try post a little about what I have done:

When I purchased it, I was told that all I needed to do was replace the fuel to get it running. The PO showed me a few bubbles in the paint and said that there wasn't too many bad spots.


This was kind of true, I got the thing to fire after replacing the starter and solenoid. The problem was that all the gas in the tank and the lines had varnished up!!!


The tank was horrible, so I dropped it and decided to buy a new one...


While I waited for it to ship, I got bored and started investigating in the bubbled paint...





Besides all the rust under the paint, I found that it had probably been in a crash, and there was almost a 1/4 inch of bondo in some parts.

along with the body rust, the floorpan was a lot worse than I thought. I didn't look into the tool box when I purchased it, and their was a huge rust hole. I replaced the middle riser and both bottom side panels with pieces from classic enterprise and I made my own floor with 16 gauge sheet metal and made the ribs out of 1x3 steel tube.

I took the body off and cleaned up the frame a bit.



And I have been working on the body since... although, over the summer I didn't get too much time, too much overtime at work!!!



I was so fed up with the rust that I just decided to comp the rear end...


Well, this is where I'm at, hopefully this will motivate others, and myself to keep up the work!!!


... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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post #2 of 585 Old 09-24-2010, 04:36 PM
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Nice Job, Post some pics when its all said ans done.
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post #3 of 585 Old 09-24-2010, 04:42 PM
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Oh Man, I'm having flashbacks.

That looks like a lot of work. What you've got done looks great.

This should be another good one to follow.

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Thanks Mike, your thread is one of the threads that keeps me motivated!!!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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Can't wait to see what it looks like with the comp cuts! Don't worry... it will all come together for you. Keep up the good work!

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I see you started the thread! Good deal.

Guys he's got a bunch more pictures and some great work to show. This will be great to watch! Keep the post and pictures coming. Subscribed!
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I'll stay tuned for this one, not everyday you see an intermediate CJ build.
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Blake, I really didn't know what I was getting into when I purchased it, all I knew was that I had a TJ that I built up, then sold, for reasons I don't think are/were relevant (hindsight is always 20/20)... Then decided I wanted a v8 without smog, which brings me to anything before 75... Plus I wanted something I could wrench on a little... It has been a little more work than I had hoped, probably a lot above my skill level, but I have been reading like crazy and pick things up quickly. I am a bit embarrassed to post some of the pics because I don't want people to see how poorly I might have done "this" or "that" but encouragement from you guys (thanks Jim!!!) has been huge for me!!!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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It has been a little more work than I had hoped, probably a lot above my skill level, but I have been reading like crazy and pick things up quickly. I am a bit embarrassed to post some of the pics because I don't want people to see how poorly I might have done "this" or "that" but encouragement from you guys (thanks Jim!!!) has been huge for me!!!
Don't be embarrassed! I see "new" people joining JF all the time, with little knowledge, looking for help. Just like me, and maybe you too. If nothing else, then your example can always save someone some work that they shouldn't do. That's the way I had to look at it. Shoot... it only takes once... hmmm... no, TWICE, to get it right! And then you never forget, and soon you will be telling others how to fix something! Keep up the great work. Everybody is watching YOU!

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X100 on what Scott said.^^^

Hey Bill sometime I'll make up a list of stuff I've messed up and had to do over again. Always remember when you ask something on here that several others will be wondering too, they just may not want to ask.
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If you're looking for some great info on body work and body work methods take a look through Jscherb's Gaucho build, he did a great job on showing how to do body work.
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What's next Bill?
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Wellllll, if I ever get time off, lots of overtime right now (I'm not complaining!!!), I want to throw some more metal at the inside of the tub, then wire wheel it and POR the inside and under side, so that I can get to mounting it. Then I have to fit in the new tank and fuel lines, along with new brake lines, and rear wheel cylinders. Everything else is bolt on stuff... Well, except for exterior bodywork and painting, which I will do with the body on the frame.

The thing that i have been thinking most about, though, is axles! I got the disc setup from a 77 CJ7 that I need to bolt up, but have been putting that off because I have been trying to find more info on putting in WT axles. The plan was 35s, but think I'm going to 37s. I've heard that you can build a Dana 30 to withstand 38s, but a lot of people here say that 35s max them out. Not to mention I will prolly need to add spacers for 37s. You add regearing into the picture and it's starting to sound like WTs are the easiest way to go from the beginning... The other side to it is that I can play with what I have till I break something, then I can upgrade.

I think I will have a few hours on Wednesday to mess with the body a little, but after that, I won't have time till next Wednesday... Lots of overtime coming my way and I can't say no!!!

Blake, thanks for the heads up on the guacho build... Amazing!!! I need to spend a few more hours reading over that!!!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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I understand that being busy at work thing. Like you I'm glad to have the work to do!!

If you're going to run 37's I don' think I'd invest allot in the Dana 30. You could get by with them for a while if you don't get too heavy with the foot. I have trouble with that disipline myself.

That guacho build is something. I have spent many times looking through his work in awe. He is a craftsman to say the least.
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Ok, Jim motivated me... more metal in the body... my welds started decent, then ended up sucking, but I was mostly using it as gap filler..... I know....




and here is a little better look at what I cut off the fenders...


Well, I think that is all I'm gonna get to this week... gotta go pick up the boys, lots of OT tomorrow, training friday, family stuff saturday, then back to work sunday... maybe i can get a little more done while the boys nap........

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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