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Unread 01-07-2014, 05:36 PM   #1
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Someone sell me some headlights....

Since I have the grill off to pull the motor Im going to take the time to wire in some relays IE: headlight relay mod, as well as put my aux lights on a relay.

For lights I have them narrowed down to:

Cibie's for $80ea

Hella Vision Plus for $100 pair

KC Performance for $100 pair

Are the Cibies that superior of a light to cost an extra $60...?

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Unread 01-07-2014, 05:53 PM   #2
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Unread 01-15-2014, 06:56 PM   #3
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It sounds like you are lookin for off road lights. If you want to greatly improve your factory head lights, gain a nice clean factory plug to run relays driven by high/low beams, and not spend a fortune, I can say from first hand experience that the "heavy duty headlight harness" (~$30) from LMC Truck, with Sylvania Silverstar replacement lamps(not sure, I think ~$75) is absolutely awesome, ridiculously simple to perform, and will make wiring your off road lights even easier.
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Unread 01-15-2014, 07:18 PM   #4
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It sounds like you are lookin for off road lights.
No. Just looking to improve my factory Hi/Lows.... I am doing the relay mod, but also want to start with a quality light.

So....all things equal, meaning Cibies and Hellas...on relays...are the Cibies worth the extra $$...and why.
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Unread 01-15-2014, 07:23 PM   #5
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I went with simple autopals off of eBay for $60 shipped and couldn't be happier. In my opinion only, if you're looking to spend extra money, just go with the hellas and I'll bet you'll be happy as a clam.
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Do you guys have links for these lights? Which cibie will fit our old CJs? And wich autopals work too?
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Unread 01-15-2014, 07:48 PM   #7
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I can't remember the specific autopals, they were standard 7" dot-approved lights iirc. Even came with a pair of lamps.
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Unread 01-15-2014, 07:52 PM   #8
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Do you guys have links for these lights? Which cibie will fit our old CJs?
IF, I were to decide on Cibies, Id get them here:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html

Otherwise Id just use Quadratec for a PN and search Amazon for the best deal.
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I've also had good luck with Daniel Stern. Bought relays, Cibie reflectors and Osram bulbs and love how much brighter things are. I wrote it up here a few years ago and have since purchased replacement bulbs from Mr Stern (only needed one, but replaced the pair and kept the one older good bulb as a spare).

http://jeep.smallcraft.net/lighting_upgrade/
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Unread 01-15-2014, 11:22 PM   #11
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I bought the KC headlights and have been very happy with them.
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Unread 01-16-2014, 03:42 AM   #12
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try here : http://www.busdepot.com/0301600118

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Unread 01-16-2014, 06:11 AM   #13
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I've also had good luck with Daniel Stern. Bought relays, Cibie reflectors and Osram bulbs and love how much brighter things are. I wrote it up here a few years ago and have since purchased replacement bulbs from Mr Stern (only needed one, but replaced the pair and kept the one older good bulb as a spare).

http://jeep.smallcraft.net/lighting_upgrade/
Hey Jeffrey,

I think the headlight relay upgrade is going to be my next project.

Did the Stern relay kit come with the necessary provisions to re-wire the side markers?

Also, you mentioned upgrading the bulbs in your signal indicators, perimeter running lights, brake and back-up lights. Do you happen to have part#s or links to those items?

Thanks,

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Here is a thread on relays, some good information some not so good

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/cj...grade-1411011/



If you are just wanting to get better stock headlights you might try good grounds and power (direct from the battery) the difference is amazing.

It is easiest to do the wiring with the grill out, but the headlight upgrade can be done with the grill in.

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Yeppirs, inkeeping with the JeepHammer idiom, proper grounding back to the battery makes for no bottlenecks in current flow so full battery power is uninhibited. How I did mine was by using a ground bus bar that attaches directly to the negative terminal of the battery, this way I have all the grounding contacts solid, centralized, and easily reached for future projects.
I've been using Hella Vision plus on my panel van 'Easy Bake' my bike Kaw Z1R turbo 'Go Fast' and my CJ5 'Black Betty' for years now and the manner in which Hella flutes the lens makes for superior lighting from what I've seen, I use Flösser 145/100's which seem to outlast all other H4's available locally.
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