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Unread 08-25-2011, 08:50 AM   #31
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Right, because those of us who don't hit the rock gardens every weekend and opt for an SUA lift whose performance suits our needs must never get off the pavement.

You looked past the part where he said it was dangerous with stock NT axles.....which isn't a stretch of the imagination.D
Thanks, Jeepwhore. It wasn't important enough for me to argue about it, but I appreciate your support.

More specifically, a SOA raises the center of gravity considerably...especially on a NT Jeep. We already know these Jeeps are prone to tipping over, even in their stock configuration. Raising the COG only enhances that. It's simple physics. But, hey, it looks cool...

Obviously, a SOA makes a better rock-crawler, assuming it's done correctly. But those same attributes will do you little, or no, good in an evasive maneuver on the road.

Apparently, he also looked past my second reason for choosing SUA. My setup basically involved removing the old springs and shocks, and bolting on the new ones. After an alignment, I was rolling again with a profoundly improved ride.

I didn't have to touch any steering, nor driveline components. The t-case didn't need to be dropped, and the brake lines didn't require modification. I'm sure there are other issues involved in a SOA that I successfully avoided, as well.

There is no right or wrong answer. It just depends on your needs and goals for your rig.

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Unread 08-25-2011, 02:43 PM   #32
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There is no right or wrong answer. It just depends on your needs and goals for your rig.
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Unread 08-29-2011, 10:29 AM   #33
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Hey Red, where you from in WA state?
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Unread 08-29-2011, 04:00 PM   #34
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Hey Red, where you from in WA state?
Yep, about 20 min. From down town marysville. I live near kayak golf course.
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Unread 08-29-2011, 05:47 PM   #35
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Very cool, howdy neighbor
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Unread 12-11-2011, 03:26 PM   #36
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Ok, i need to start this thread back up. im building a CJ7 and its a 77. it has the Quadratrac axles, so im problably going to put in a Dana 44 and 60. its going to have a SBC with a auto trans (prefer manual, but tub is auto.) so, should i go SOA, or SUA? I can do all of it myself. i just want some opinions. it will be on trails 99% of the time, and the other 1% is driving there and back.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 03:50 PM   #37
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Ok, i need to start this thread back up. im building a CJ7 and its a 77. it has the Quadratrac axles, so im problably going to put in a Dana 44 and 60. its going to have a SBC with a auto trans (prefer manual, but tub is auto.) so, should i go SOA, or SUA? I can do all of it myself. i just want some opinions. it will be on trails 99% of the time, and the other 1% is driving there and back.
Are you keeping the tranny/tcase? If so your rear axle will need to be off set to passenger side. This means custom axle and shafts which is not easy or cheap. This decision will make or break your plans. If you do want to swap it out, which I would, you are talking about some serious money and fab work to do complete drivetrain plus motor and ect...
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Unread 12-11-2011, 05:48 PM   #38
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Are you keeping the tranny/tcase? If so your rear axle will need to be off set to passenger side. This means custom axle and shafts which is not easy or cheap. This decision will make or break your plans. If you do want to swap it out, which I would, you are talking about some serious money and fab work to do complete drivetrain plus motor and ect...
Nope. im going SBC 350/TH350/NP205

It didnt have a motor when i got it, only the trans and T-Case. Im selling them. It originally had a 304, and i would put one back in, but i dont like the quadratrac and already have a 350 out here.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 05:54 PM   #39
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Nope. im going SBC 350/TH350/NP205

It didnt have a motor when i got it, only the trans and T-Case. Im selling them. It originally had a 304, and i would put one back in, but i dont like the quadratrac and already have a 350 out here.
Nice choice. Although the 205 isnt geared very low and I've heard it's very hard to fit in between frame rails of a cj. Wish you luck with your swap.
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Nice choice. Although the 205 isnt geared very low and I've heard it's very hard to fit in between frame rails of a cj. Wish you luck with your swap.
What do you think is a better choice? I dont mess with T/C's very often.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:01 PM   #41
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What do you think is a better choice? I dont mess with T/C's very often.
Well me personally I love the d300 but you will need an adapter. I think you will need an adapter for several of the choices out there. For suspension I would go soa and find a front axle already setup that way so you don't have to mess with caster.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:09 PM   #42
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Well me personally I love the d300 but you will need an adapter. I think you will need an adapter for several of the choices out there. For suspension I would go soa and find a front axle already setup that way so you don't have to mess with caster.
Well, on advanced adapters its $500 for the adapter and im broke most of the time. Cant afford it. Ill just wait and see. since its a Auto i think i may be able to lower axle gears and it be fine until i get some money saved. Thanks for the help!
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Unread 12-12-2011, 11:53 AM   #43
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S.O.A., out boarded, shackle reversal via PSC components, Parts Mike high steer system and MORE steering box mount.

Tires are 14.50 x 37 Toyo's, application is a locked and 456 geared Waggy D44 and it goes like stink.

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Unread 12-12-2011, 12:25 PM   #44
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If you are really gonna wheel the crap out of it spring over is the way to go. My setup is almost identical to Tec's but I'm stretched with the xj springs, scout 44 in the rear and 4.88's. If your going to just drive it the sua is a little more stable and roadable but I still drive mine down the interstate on different tires at 70-75 mph.


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Unread 12-12-2011, 12:40 PM   #45
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i have a 1990 yj and im gettin ready to swap an 8.8 into it and i was gonna do a SOA on the rear with flat springs and keep my 4 inch inch procomp SUA on the front untill i get enbough money to do a SOA on the front. im pretty sure it already has a dropped pitman arm and i have adjustable mx6 procomp shocks. would this work? this is my first jeep give me some ideas
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