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post #16 of 59 Old 08-12-2011, 08:51 AM
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I probably undersold how well they can drive. About five years ago a co-worker and I went out in my Jeeps and our wives drove. The instructions were that when we got the the pavement, we were to switch back Jeeps. She would drive the stocker.

That didn't adhere to her brain and she drove my big one home at over 60 MPH. She said it drove better and posed no problems at all.

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post #17 of 59 Old 08-16-2011, 03:58 AM
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I can anyone show there build thread for the soa. Im building a 1954 cj3b and im stuck on keeping it sua or soa and I know that none of these jeeps are as old as mine, but if anyone could help me it would be very much apperciated.
You need any help let me know have a fully equiped shop in Modesto.


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post #18 of 59 Old 08-16-2011, 07:18 AM
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I had two reasons for going with SUA:

1. I think the SOA looks goofy, and is a bit dangerous, with the narrow-track CJs. Mine is an '81.

2. I didn't want to change driveline and steering components just to change springs and shocks.

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post #19 of 59 Old 08-16-2011, 11:15 AM
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Nothing dangerous about it. Plus you don't have all that hardware hanging down to catch on rocks etc. I guess its OK if all you do is wheel at the mall. Then again there are some big speed bumps......

Beat it to fit, paint it to match!

Wheel, Wrench, Repeat.
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post #20 of 59 Old 08-23-2011, 09:23 PM
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I just purchased a project 1980 CJ5 and one of the POA's did a truly terrible SOA job. The drive shaft is out with broken straps probably due to a poor job of adjusting drive shaft angle and I am thinking about reversing this hack job. I need to post some pictures because they used bolts as shims at the front u bolts, probably to try and adjust the angle. It is amazing what people will do to a vehicle thinking they are "adjusting"!!!
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post #21 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 04:46 AM
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"SOA is the only way." my main reason was the axles I was swapping to. If I had the stock wide tracks still I would have kept it SUA to keep my steering geometry correct. Since the new front axle is stock setup soa and I prefer that now you can see how well the steering is tucked up. Using wrangler springs and it is very soft. only down fall is that big 14 bolt in the rear that needs shaved.
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post #22 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 07:58 AM
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I like how the H1 Beadlocks tuck the tires back in with the full width axles.

I am still running some stock aluminum 8 lug rims I picked up off Craigslist. I'm on the hunt for some H1s to round it out after I get the motor put back in.

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post #23 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 08:26 AM
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I have some pics of both.

Before: 4" superlift and this was about all she had with a narrow track 30 and 44



After: RE 1.5" springs in the front XJ 2.5 OME springs reversed (stretched wheelbase) in the rear both sprung over with dana 44's, shackle reversal, outboarded, highsteer, front axle moved forward 1.25" etc.


Wheel - Wreck - Wrench - Repeat!

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post #24 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 11:10 AM
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Yup, hands down, the SOA will out flex a SUA any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

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post #25 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 02:13 PM
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Yup, hands down, the SOA will out flex any run of the mill, prepackaged SUA any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Fixed it for ya.

I know of a CJ on 37's that was spring under front and rear which was in the same ballpark as a linked suspension. The owner spent many years coming up with different spring arrangements and it flexed like mad.

In the end he got bored with it and went to links and coil-overs on all four corners.
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post #26 of 59 Old 08-24-2011, 05:26 PM
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Nothing dangerous about it. Plus you don't have all that hardware hanging down to catch on rocks etc. I guess its OK if all you do is wheel at the mall. Then again there are some big speed bumps......
Right, because those of us who don't hit the rock gardens every weekend and opt for an SUA lift whose performance suits our needs must never get off the pavement.

You looked past the part where he said it was dangerous with stock NT axles.....which isn't a stretch of the imagination.


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Yup, hands down, the SOA will out flex a SUA any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
Opinion = Fact ?


So far lots of good arguements both ways......the decision is so much clearer now hey?....

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post #27 of 59 Old 08-25-2011, 03:01 AM
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Im running SOA W/ waggy springs with an add a leaf in the rear and a 1" lift yj shackle. Stock rear early 90's s-10 springs in the front with a yj 1" lift shackle and shackle reversal.
Where I wheel its better to have it set up a little taller ( IMO ) and I love the way it looks, as far as the ride I have no idea yet. Stock it rode terrible, with my shackle angle in the front it should ride like a cadilac.
For stiring I bought a stock xj cherokee pitman arm and it makes the drag link angle much much better.

"Taking away the manual transmission shifter on a jeep is like neutering a cage fighter and dressing him up in pink Hello Kitty garb." - John Cappa

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post #28 of 59 Old 08-25-2011, 04:28 AM
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Im running SOA W/ waggy springs with an add a leaf in the rear and a 1" lift yj shackle. Stock rear early 90's s-10 springs in the front with a yj 1" lift shackle and shackle reversal.
Where I wheel its better to have it set up a little taller ( IMO ) and I love the way it looks, as far as the ride I have no idea yet. Stock it rode terrible, with my shackle angle in the front it should ride like a cadilac.
For stiring I bought a stock xj cherokee pitman arm and it makes the drag link angle much much better.
You got a build thread? That thing is awesome.

CJ7/SOA YJ leaf/5.3LS/t18a/d300 clock/37"Pitbull Rockers/H1's/14 bolt/d44 ARB 4.10 High Steer
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post #29 of 59 Old 08-25-2011, 08:17 AM
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It was better for me to slowly build my SoA rather than dumping it into a SuA all at once. I love how it rides now. It's much smoother. Also as stated before, it all depends on how you're going to use your jeep. Mine is mainly for trails and driving around my small hometown. Little if any highway speeds. However, she will do 70 no problem.
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post #30 of 59 Old 08-25-2011, 08:43 AM
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Great looking cj! love the color combo and the stance.

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