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Unread 08-28-2011, 05:25 PM   #1
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So what's a waggy 44?

I assume it's a Dana 44 out of a Wagoneer, am I right? Anything special about it? What is the mounting surface to mounting surface width?

I keep reading the term and am unfamiliar it so I thought I would ask. I have a Powerwagen and it has a 9.25 in the rear, some refer it as a corporate 44, then you have a Dana 44. So what is a waggy 44?

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waggy 44 is a wagoneer dana 44, and its dimensions all depend on the year and drivetrain.
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The narrow track wagoneer axles are 58 to 59 inches wide and the wide track ones I believe are 62.5" or so wide.
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So a narrow track waggy would be pretty close to a wide track CJ. Any rhyme or reason to finding a narrow track, year? Engine/trans?
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Would be close but still a wider stance of 4" or so. A Dana 44 is much more stout than amc 20 or the Dana 30. The wagoneer axles are also from a considerably larger vehicle which means the brakes are bigger which is always a good perk
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The waggy 44 isn't a bolt in axle swap by no means, but a good choice to begin with which is why its a common swap into cj's
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The narrow track wagoneer axles are 58 to 59 inches wide and the wide track ones I believe are 62.5" or so wide.
Negative. Narrow track is around 61.5" and wide track, which was never used under a Wagoneer (Cherokee Chief and J-trucks only) is around 65.5".

There's a metric $^it-ton of information on swapping one into a CJ, so look around the web a bit.
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Negative. Narrow track is around 61.5" and wide track, which was never used under a Wagoneer (Cherokee Chief and J-trucks only) is around 65.5".

There's a metric $^it-ton of information on swapping one into a CJ, so look around the web a bit.

Correct - FYI I picked up an empty front housing with flat top knuckles and axles (no dif, rotors, hubs) for 200.00 with shipping from Ebay.
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Negative. Narrow track is around 61.5" and wide track, which was never used under a Wagoneer (Cherokee Chief and J-trucks only) is around 65.5".

There's a metric $^it-ton of information on swapping one into a CJ, so look around the web a bit.

Well there are few years that are , 74-79 fsj "is 59" . I have one on the front of my rig. There are about 4 or 5 widths on waggy 44s. There is **** load of info on them on the net that will give the various widths as csp stated. I got mine of a 77 wagoneer.
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There are also numerous kits for doing this swap. I will be posting my swap using the poison spyder wide axle kit here in few days hopefully. I need to finish the painting of frame and the brackets for finish pictures.
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Well there are few years that are , 74-79 fsj "is 59" . I have one on the front of my rig. There are about 4 or 5 widths on waggy 44s. There is **** load of info on them on the net that will give the various widths as csp stated. I got mine of a 77 wagoneer.
Sorry but I will disagree completely. Waggie 44s were the same width for the entire run from '74-91. None of them are 59", regardless of who has one. I have three of them, not that it means anything.

The problem is the web, which we all know is as full of bad info as good, and people not knowing how to measure consistently and accurately.
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Ok. I didn't take a torch and cut my axle out from a 77 wagoneer if you say so.
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What I'm saying is that measurement methods aren't always correct.
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Well I measure mine with a straight edge against the outside of the brake drum in between the wheel studs on both sides of the axle and come up with 58 and a quarter inches. That's the way most people and reputable sources measure them. The grand wagoneer axles are the widest and those do measure over 61" that way. Those are the wms to wms measuring way I think of when talking axle widths
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The subject is front axles, not rear. Since front Waggie 44's didn't have drum brakes, you're not measuring a front axle. Fronts are wider than rear axles on the Waggie/Grand Waggie as well.
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