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Unread 01-09-2012, 09:26 AM   #61
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I think it looks really clean when it's done. My tub is rust free, and I just put a new carpet kit in it.......but it's always in the back of my mind.....
Yeah, I know a lot of guys bad-mouth the carpet, but I actually like mine. I routinely clean under it, and try not to let it get wet.

Without the carpet, it feels like I'm driving a cold tin can.

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Unread 01-09-2012, 09:29 AM   #62
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Liners are great for vehicles that are only going to be in your posession for 5 years and are not going to evolve. Beyond that you have to start dealing with damage or the vehicle being reconfigured and trying to figure out how to blend & match the liner.

With all the tub accessories guys put into CJs I'm really suprised at the popularity of liner. Seems like every couple years y'all are changing how things attach inside the tub.

good luck with the paint job
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Unread 01-09-2012, 11:24 AM   #63
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I just got off the phone with the local SW dealer and the guy I talked to agreed that the sealer should be skipped if you use the premium epoxy primer and the Genisis brand paint. He also mentioned that you should use SW epoxy primer for best results (did you expect anything else).
I went ahead with lining my tub with Monsta Liner, but miss the feeling of carpet on my bare tootsies. I am debating putting carpet back in as it will also help hide the audio cables I will be installing for the amp, speakers and sub.
Also, I'm not sure I really care about those that bad mouth carpet. Talk to me when you pay my car note on the CJ for me a few times
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Unread 01-09-2012, 11:56 AM   #64
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I just got off the phone with the local SW dealer and the guy I talked to agreed that the sealer should be skipped if you use the premium epoxy primer and the Genisis brand paint. He also mentioned that you should use SW epoxy primer for best results (did you expect anything else).
I went ahead with lining my tub with Monsta Liner, but miss the feeling of carpet on my bare tootsies. I am debating putting carpet back in as it will also help hide the audio cables I will be installing for the amp, speakers and sub.
Also, I'm not sure I really care about those that bad mouth carpet. Talk to me when you pay my car note on the CJ for me a few times
Nothing wrong with running carpet if all the rust has been fixed. It makes the interior quiter and look better IMO. If the Jeep is not a trail only Jeep and does not have alot to hide I personally like the inside and bottom of the tub painted to match the outside. I dont mind liners if they are done well but hate fadded liners. Its a huge turn off when going to buy a CJ as it will have to be stripped out and redone.
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No rust in or on my CJ to worry about I know, hard to believe without pictures, but it is spotless. Come to think of it, I actually do have pictures before, during and after the liner was applied. I need to find them though.
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I just got off the phone with the local SW dealer and the guy I talked to agreed that the sealer should be skipped if you use the premium epoxy primer and the Genisis brand paint. He also mentioned that you should use SW epoxy primer for best results (did you expect anything else).
I went ahead with lining my tub with Monsta Liner, but miss the feeling of carpet on my bare tootsies. I am debating putting carpet back in as it will also help hide the audio cables I will be installing for the amp, speakers and sub.
Also, I'm not sure I really care about those that bad mouth carpet. Talk to me when you pay my car note on the CJ for me a few times
SJM85CJ7,

Thanks for making that call. I actually left before you posted, since it's a 3.5 hr drive to the paint shop, and I wanted to get back in time to get some work done.

I ended up picking my SW manager's brain pretty good. He'd obviously done a lot of painting. He reiterated that sealer wasn't necessary with their highest quality epoxy and paint. Not only does it add another step, but most sealers have a short re-coat window that you have to deal with. He also said that there was no adhesion benefit to using a sealer. It's more for blending two different colored panels to look the same.

Anyway, I ended up sticking with SW's second highest quality paint, the Ultra One brand, because they didn't have the mixture specs in the color code I needed (AMC code 9B Olympic white)in the Genesis. I didn't want them to eyeball the color and not have it match the half-doors I've already painted.

I did pick up their best epoxy primer, which is a 2-part system that can be thinned with their VS100 solvent. I like the idea of a thinner , so I can somewhat control the flow of the primer.

Well, time to setup my paint booth. Good luck on your project.

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Good evening, guys.

I've made some progress on my paint job over the last two days. I've basically got everything primed and ready for the final coat.

There are a few minor "oops" that I'll have to sand out in the morning, but overall I was very pleased with the way the SW epoxy primer sprayed. I've used a little over 3 quarts of the gallon I purchased, and I'll probably use about half of what's left on the touchups. Perfect.

Here's some progress pics. Nothing too exciting, but it sure feels good to be at this stage.

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And the last four, for now.

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Thanks for the pictures. Now you have me extremely jealous. Looks great
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I wish I was even remotely close to your stage of rebuild. I'm in teardown...
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Thanks, guys. It's been a lot of time and elbow grease getting to this stage. Considering this is my first ever attempt at auto restoration, I'm a little blown away that it's turning out so nice!

Tomorrow will tell the tale. Hopefully the color coat goes as well as the primer.

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Looking good! Do you have to wet sand the primer before the topcoat?

Keep up the good work!
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Looking at the pictures, am I seeing it right that you couldn't get the lower bracket off for the spare tire carrier? I have tried and tried to get mine off with no luck. What a pain in the azz......
Anyways, can't wait to see the pictures of the color......
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Looking good! Do you have to wet sand the primer before the topcoat?

Keep up the good work!
Only the spots that have a drip, run, or a little overspray. The rest is good to go. I plan to seam seal everything I can reach before the top-coat.

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Looking at the pictures, am I seeing it right that you couldn't get the lower bracket off for the spare tire carrier? I have tried and tried to get mine off with no luck. What a pain in the azz......
Anyways, can't wait to see the pictures of the color......
Good eye! Yeah, that bracket was the only piece I couldn't break loose. Instead of snapping the bolts, I decided to leave it, and paint it black, again, afterwards.

The final color is OEM white, so the color coat pics won't be a large difference...hopefully a litlle shinier.

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