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Unread 11-23-2011, 05:38 PM   #16
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Are auto painters still using tack cloths? Or am I just old school.

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Unread 11-23-2011, 07:10 PM   #17
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Good call on Sherwin Williams. I always forget about them. I was thinking the closest one is Parker Rd./Yale in Aurora. They are auto paint only there, so they do have more stuff. I usually use Painter's Supply in Englewood.
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Unread 11-23-2011, 07:36 PM   #18
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CSP,

Actually, the Parker Sherwin Williams is house paint only. I wound getting what I needed at their Denver store on 38th and I-25. Apparently auto is a separate division within Sherwin Williams, with different store locations.

Did I mention I hate driving in Denver? I should have went to Englewood in hind-sight.

One item I forgot to pick up was some face masks, dang it. I guess I'll hold my breath.

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Unread 11-23-2011, 08:25 PM   #19
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Keep us posted on your progress. I am in Denver and hope to be shooting paint next spring...I will probably use the products and store above if they work for you. Good luck!
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Unread 11-24-2011, 08:19 PM   #20
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I hope you all have a belly full of Thanksgiving cheer!! Here's what I did, today:

I started out the morning by thoroughly cleaning both doors with the special cleaner. I used Q-tips around the hinges and other hard to reach places.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 08:23 PM   #21
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The Scotch Brite pads worked very well for scuffing the back side of the doors and other uneven surfaces.

After scuffing, I had a couple of scratches that required a little putty.
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Next, I had to set up my paint room.

Then I sprayed the sealer.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 08:31 PM   #23
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Finally, I sprayed the final coats.

I ran out of light for good pictures, but I'm fairly pleased with the final finish. In hind sight, I should have thinned the final coat a little more than the recommended 4:1:1 ratio , as I ended up with a very slight orange peal texture. But I'm confident I'll be able to buff that smooth with a litlle elbow grease, tomorrow.

More to come.....

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Unread 11-24-2011, 09:09 PM   #24
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They turned out really nice.

I would wait a couple of days before wet sanding and buffing it out though.

Start with 1000 grit and finish with something around 2000 before buffing them out. Use a rubber backer behind the paper when wet sanding and add a couple of drops of liquid dish soap to your spray bottle to help keep the paper clean. It also makes it glide better across the new paint.

Unless you are very comfortable with a buffer, I would do them by hand. No matter what you do, stay away from the edges.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:15 PM   #25
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Stan,

Thanks, your advice has been spot on.

Upon closer inspection, I need another coat along the very bottom sides.

I also have a handful of tiny flecks, that apparently spit out of my cheap spray gun, in a few places. What's the best way of knocking those off without taking too much paint underneath?

Thanks so much. again

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Unread 11-25-2011, 04:54 AM   #26
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Matt next time your at the paint store pick up a Nib file they are about 10 dollars each. They will knock of the tops of NIBs with out damaging the paint. The item on the right is a run blocker and you wet sand the NIBs after with 1200 or higher then buff it out.

What PSI are you shooting at you should have a gauge on the spray gun? When the trigger is pulled you should see 23-27 PSI to shoot. Your instructions will give you the exact PSI at the gun and not at the regulator. Your regulator at the compressor could be as high as 80 PSI depending on the hose and such.
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gmakra,

A NIB file, eh? I guess there's a tool for every job. Thanks!

My spray guns are the NAPA cheapys shown in the first post. I didn't use a regulator at the gun, just at the compressor. I shot at the 40-45 PSI (Conventional) that the paint instructions suggested.

Is low pressure usually the culprit for Nibs?

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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:27 AM   #28
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Matt the pressure is critica,l in your instructions it should say what PSI you want at your air cap. That is the pressure you want at the gun with the trigger pulled. So put the regulator on the gun and pull the trigger and adjust to the recommend PSI.

HVLP is a different animal than the conventional guns make sure your spraying with the 1.4 tip and you should see some difference. The gun recomendations take precendent over the the paint specs.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:45 AM   #29
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Junk in your paint/primer is usually from a dirty gun or you didn't run it through a strainer while pouring it into the cup.

You want very low air pressure at the gun when using an HVLP type. High Volume Low Pressure. That means more material is applied @ lower pressure with greatly reduced overspray.

You could wet sand them with some 600 grit paper and shoot a coat or two more over the top if you want. That will knock down any runs or high spots and enable you to get more paint on the edges at the same time. It is common to lay 1 to 2 more coats of paint on something that you know you are going to color sand and buff. That way you can remove the orange peel and still have enough paint left by the time you are done without the risk of getting too thin.

BTW: You should always use a regulator at the gun. You can get a cheap one at Harbor Freight for about $7.00 You really never know what the pressure is at the gun if you just rely on the one at the compressor. Due to differences in air line length and diameter, you would be surprised at the drop in pressure by the time it gets to the end of the hose.

I would also recommend you install a cheap disposable water trap/filter at the gun to catch any moisture or junk from the air tank. They cost about $2.00 and are well worth it.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:50 AM   #30
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I am wanting to paint my Cj And dpont have a garage but do have a shed < can i set up some plastic hanging from the shed and coat the floor and paint it in the car port part of the shed

thats if i cant find a place to paint it in lol
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