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Unread 10-23-2003, 10:01 AM   #1
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Runs out of gas?

My 84 Scrambler runs great. It has the 258 with a juice box, and the Carter BBD carburetor. The problem is when it sits for a very long period of time, 10 hours or more. When I start the jeep it starts right up, but then after about 10 to 15 seconds it dies. it acts like it has run out of gas. I usually have to spray some starting fluid in the carburetor several times to get it to stay running. Does anyone have any ideas?

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Unread 10-23-2003, 11:33 AM   #2
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It's your carb. I think it might be the float sticking..? Mine did this several years ago and putting a new weber on it fixed the problem. I rebuilt the bbd 3 or 4 times and was just sick of it. I think my mechanic said the float was hung up and keeping gas from getting into the jets, but it's been a long time ago so I don't know if that makes sense or not (I don't know much about the bbd except that it's a piece of crap) Might be the fuel pump too. If the gas is running back down in the lnes all the way to tank, it would cause the jeep to be starved for gas until you turn it over enough to get the pump to pull it back to the carb, right? Just something else to look at.
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Unread 10-23-2003, 01:32 PM   #3
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I second that. I had the same problem with the carter a couple months ago. I put a good weber k551-38 in it and it runs soo much better. I bought it from Collins Bros. Jeeps off Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2438803556

Combine it with a new intake manifold and exhaust headers from Clifford and you can get alot more power out of your rig.

http://cliffordperformanceshop.com/c...ng_1699250.htm
http://cliffordperformanceshop.com/c...58_1710643.htm

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Unread 10-23-2003, 03:42 PM   #4
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I replaced the fuel pump last week, but it didn't help. If the float is sticking, wouldn't I have trouble more often? I would love to get a Weber and new manifolds, but I'm married with children.
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Unread 10-23-2003, 04:55 PM   #5
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If you can't get your carter BBD fixed cheaply then look for a nice used BBD. Ebay maybe? The best thing you can do to a 258 is to get a new aftermarket carb or fuel injection. A lot of people swap out perfectly good BBD carbs so you might be able to find one that works good really cheap. If you don't have the cash for a webber then you don't I know how it go's. Start saving your penny's and dimes for one though. The intake and headers are just icing on the cake.

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Unread 10-23-2003, 04:57 PM   #6
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I replaced the fuel pump last week, but it didn't help. If the float is sticking, wouldn't I have trouble more often? I would love to get a Weber and new manifolds, but I'm married with children.
Like I said, I don't remember exactly what was wrong, but at that point I was so fed up with that piece of ***** carb that I got a weber and it fixed the problem. You don't have to get a new manifold or header (they're nice, but not a must have). Get a weber for $300 or look post asking about the motorcraft 2100 swap over (little more stuff to do, but cheaper). I spent over $100 each time to get my carter "fixed" (rebuilt), so after several times, I would have been better off just getting the weber to start with. I've had it for over 5 years now and have had no problems with it.
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