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Unread 09-10-2013, 08:35 AM   #1
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Which Risers are these?

Im trying to locate some rises / sliders for my 76 CJ5. I've read that pre-90 YJ should work, as well as any variation of CJ back to 76.

The guy I'm buying these from thinks they're from a post 90 YJ, but the drivers side looks like TJ to me. Can anyone ID these for me and possibly explain what mods might need to be done to fit to CJ5 tub. The seats are in decent shape, so if they fit I'll be buying the whole set.

Thanks.

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Unread 09-10-2013, 08:38 AM   #2
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And here's the seat if that helps ID.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 10:06 AM   #3
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Those are 91 to 95 YJ and should fit your tub with little to no modifing.
There are several different risers used from 76 to 95 and most interchange.
Drivers side: 76 to 80ish had a fixed "z" shaped brackets ( non folding)
81 to 90 had folding
91 to 95 had stamped fixed
All had slider rails
Passenger side: 76 to 87ish had folders without sliders ( these are taller and fold forward more)
88 to 95 had folders that were shorter and had a slider
And to further complicate things, there are several different release handles that change in shape and direction through the years. Chrysler is constantly changing little details that don't need to be changed.

Most people like the folders on both sides with sliders on both sides, but sometime that takes some mixing and matching
Also if the tops of the seats aren't the same height, your missing a slider on one side or the other... And common mistakes
as the shorter passenger ones can be hard to spot for some

I personally don't care for the 91 to 95 seats as they are wider, heavier, recline ( never use it) and make seatbelt/ center console
fitment an issue. The few I've used had a back bar that wasn't comfortable on my lower back.
I like the fixed high backs best, 81 to 90.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 10:15 AM   #4
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Those are 91 to 95 YJ and should fit your tub with little to no modifing.
There are several different risers used from 76 to 95 and most interchange.
Drivers side: 76 to 80ish had a fixed "z" shaped brackets ( non folding)
81 to 90 had folding
91 to 95 had stamped fixed
All had slider rails
Passenger side: 76 to 87ish had folders without sliders ( these are taller and fold forward more)
88 to 95 had folders that were shorter and had a slider
Most people like the folders on both sides with sliders on both sides, but sometime that takes so mixing and matching
Also if the tops of the seats aren't the same height, your missing a slider on one side or the other... And common mistakes
as the shorter passenger ones can be hard to spot for some

I personally don't care for the 91 to 95 seats as they are wider, heavier, recline ( never use it) and make seatbelt/ center console
fitment an issue. The few I've used had a back bar that wasn't comfortable on my lower back.
I like the fixed high backs best, 81 to 90.
Thanks Ed! Good info, I think I'll go ahead and pick these up then.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 10:22 AM   #5
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I would drive your jeep over ( without the passenger seat) and take the few minutes to unbolt the drivers seat once there. Place both in and check the riser to tub contours. The only thing I can remember is you may have to redrill one or two on the drivers side. Check it though. I only had a 76 for a short time.
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1983 CJ-8 258 T5 300 30/44 3.31 Looking for full or half hardtop buy or trade
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Unread 09-22-2013, 09:26 PM   #6
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The seats and risers seem to fit perfectly. The only problem is the driver's side has two bolts sticking out the bottom of the riser that just won't budge. They're old and rusted so I just want them gone, but they almost seem like they're welded on. I've been spraying Liquid Wrench on them for 3 days.. Are they welded? I guess I could just grind them off and drill them out.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 11:54 PM   #7
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Gallons of Liquid Wrench will not free what is a factory welded stud. I've been preaching it for decades, but I don't know WHY Chrysler loves to take a tried and proven design and change it just enough to piss of the guy wanting to interchange the part.
You have two options, break off the tub nut and use it like the YJ would with a bottom nut/ washer combo or remove the studs from the risers. I did the later and it is a bit ch to remove them, it can be done. I set up a large socket to pound the stud into while holding the riser on the edge of the work bench ( riser upside down) .....to break the welds. Some wiggling back and forth was required as well. In the end, it succumbed to the mini sledge hammer and saw things my way.
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1983 CJ-8 258 T5 300 30/44 3.31 Looking for full or half hardtop buy or trade
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1986 TJ-7 Trail Jeep project in the works
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