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post #91 of 279 Old 09-05-2011, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
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Well, ran to Walmart today to get more resin. They are around $11.99/qt can of Bondo brand, where the parts stores (A Zone, Advance Auto, O'Reilly's) want around $15.99/qt. I also picked up a can of Bondo Body filler to smooth it out better.

I mixed up a small batch, trying to be a little heavy on the hardener, and just painted it over the whole area. It was still sticky in many places, so I must not have had near enough in the last batch. I hope it sets better this time.

I also took the remnants after covering the repair areas and cut up a bit of the matting and after drilling the holes a little bigger (to get nice and clean holes) I filled in the previous crude holes the PO had made for drain holes. They were in areas that didn't allow it to drain much, and only 1/4" in diameter. I also took a coat hanger wire and dipped it in the resin and ran it around inside of any holes I had made for drains to seal the wood and also in the rollbar mounting bolt holes. After seeing the rotten wood in Clay's Build, I am even more fearful of mine doing that. I have always been nervous to drill thru the wood on mine for that reason. I have a few more to seal, but it was starting to set in the cup and I have to remove the seats again later to seal those holes. I'm planning to get a Corbeau passenger seat riser soon, so that they are level to each other, so I'll just do them all then. I also need to move the driver seat over an inch at that time.

It is only high 60's today, and looking like it'll pour down rain at any minute, so I hope this layer sets fine. I guess we'll see!


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Ok, so UV rays are supposed to set this stuff off, right? What if I was to get a UV light to shine on this? Would it hurt anything?

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Ok, so UV rays are supposed to set this stuff off, right? What if I was to get a UV light to shine on this? Would it hurt anything?
Yes, UV light would help... are you saying the "hot" resin didn't kick off? That doesn't make any sense...

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Well, I put my Uromastix's "full spectrum Desert" light on it, figuring it does UVA and UVB rays, better than a black light would do. I only had it on there maybe 30 min, then I had to go to work. I had every plan to run a cord out to it and have the light on it there, but we were too busy, I figured it'd be slow like yesterday.. I was wrong..

It's still slightly tacky, even though the leftovers in the mixing cup set solid. I'll put it on there again tomorrow for a bit. I'm planning on taking the box back to the fabricators tomorrow too, hopefully they can cut it down to fit! Unfortunately I'll have to take the Jeep with me, so they can remeasure and verify the fit, so I can't have the light on at that time.

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Rick, I've never had an issue with it remaining tacky like that, I mean after you "treated" for it. It certainly should dry so there is NO tackiness. IDK... If it was me, and it did not dry completely after a couple of days (allowing for humidity, two days should be plenty of time) I would wipe it down with a solvent. But keep in mind... I HAVE MANY SCREW-UpS IN MY BUILD!! That could be another one! As Dave suggests, call the Tech Support on the resin can... see what they say.

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Well, I only had the light on there shortly, so I wasn't expecting any miracles. It's been cold and damp the past few days, so I've been just driving it as it is. I'll worry about it in a couple days if it isn't set by then. I'm cranking the heater on the drive home at night, so that should help for that half hour...

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It stuns me that you are using a heater!! I gotta get out more!

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It's been damp and cold here lately, no sun and a constant 20-70% chance of rain. I think this is my issue still that it is STILL TACKY!!! Maybe throw a dehumidifier along with my light to help it set.. Or maybe I'll just make another batch with 1 ml hardener to 3oz resin.. I know I'd have to move really fast then, but it doesn't take long to paint it over a 1' square area...

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Try another coat like you say, and let us know how it comes out. The humidity does play havoc with it, but it has had enough time to cure. Is a ml equal to a cc? I'd try 2 ccs to 3 ounces resin just to kick it off.

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Yeah, they are the same measurement, just different names. I had to look it up!

Yeah, it's still sticky. I'll have to give a good strong mix of hardener to resin here maybe Sunday or even Monday. Monday is gonna be high 70's and partly sunny, no rain (finally!!!!)

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I have had this same problem. 2 thoughts, not mixed well or old resin and hardner.

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So if it is older, would that affect the integrity? I just don't understand why it set hard in the cup, but the part I applied didn't..

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So if it is older, would that affect the integrity? I just don't understand why it set hard in the cup, but the part I applied didn't.. :shrug:
I agree with you, Rick. The only things I can think of are mixing and quantity, but I'm betting you got it right. Review your ratios. Did you mix it with at least 50 strokes? I know that sounds like overkill, but you add such a small amount of hardener you have to be sure to get incorporated well.

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No clue how many I did, considering I lost count in the 20's.. I just made sure I stirred for a while and would stir it as I was doing it, too. I was afraid it'd set while I was trying to brush it on.

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Rick I havnt forgotten about those steps. Still catching up on some bills.

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